2D3D
12d ago
If the turing test for denying wrongthink can be made by people on this board then the turing test isn't especially useful as a gauge, just like the actual turing test is just copeslop for teacher pets obsessed about their defining characteristic of intellect being supplanted by fancy calculators.
Also, how does one assess what other people are actually perceiving in their mental reward mechanism? This typical mindedness is especially uncharitable, and runs the serious risk of overinterpreting basic metaphor for much deeper meaning simply to fit ones own biases. Reading others as scared dumb animals simply because they find it unnecessary to explicitly verbalize the readily obvious sneering at the moral masters being shown as toothless is just contempt levelled from a different direction.
2D3D
12d ago
The overton window being shifted to 'everything icky is Nazi and that is a Bad Thing' is also being dressed up by extremely tired checkboxing of Umberto Ecos work. The language police must move in concert with the intellectual police in order to maintain the unfalsifiable moral high ground - you actually are nazi because according to this Smart Man what you are doing is in line with nazism!. That the intellectualism is being rejected is just further proof of the moral and intellectual superiority that the Not Nazi faction wishes to enjoy. Pity about the whole practical power translation bit, but thats not as important as self actualization.
2D3D
12d ago
Progressives seem to have zero idea what blacks believe and actually talk like. Watching modern tv post 2015 and blacks are basically all Eloquent Respectable Middle Class White People But With Racial Grievances, like they're all Ta-Nahisi Coates or whoever the black sidekick was for the Iron Man series. At least in 2010 people knew what threats were, I was warned against bringing my 'hoodrat' hard-R speaking black friends to this 'diversity' party being held in brooklyn, which while ironic at least seemed to betray an understanding of empirical reality.
2D3D
12d ago
It doesn't even have real life traction, thats the thing.Firing some young republican nobodies is costless for republicans, and now everyone sotto voce thinks the liberals are the crazy moralizing karens they spent the ladt year pretending they werent. There is an extremely aggressive attempt to memoryhole the shaming and screeching of the late 2010s but this just shows the libs can't help themselves from beating the racism gong when some supply actually instantiates to feed their unlimited demand for wrongthink.
2D3D
12d ago
I've happily made many a macro of Bill Hicks screaming "HITLER DIDNT GO FAR ENOUGH" paired with Dave Chappelle just eyebrow waggling. It is AMAZING what people read into that.
2D3D
12d ago
You don't need to be infiltrate a groupchat to find obvious examples of democrats wanting to do things they know their opponents find terrible. They openly talk about why Democrats should pretend to support economic populism so that they can sneak in trans rights and unlimited immigration, at the direct and explicit expense of white people. Its the entire existence of Lib Of Tik Tok and the progs out this out openly because they think cons are too stupid to ever pierce the barrier to entry of looking at a phone screen.
2D3D
13d ago
The terms nazi or hitler has no common meaning anymore, but it must be emphasized that the public generally understands the intent of meaning based on who the speaker is. A right winger calling himself a nazi is appropriating the maximalistically offensive affect to piss off liberals since a 13-52 Noticer is equivalent to a nazi anyways. A left winger levelling the accusation is trying to reputationally damage the other party by association, not actually sincerely believing that the right winger wants to implement dirigisme economics or cease supporting israel. Even right wing conspiraticism about Israel is AIPAC Noticing and old school WASP contempt for an uppity ingerior. not left wing desires for Israeli disarmanent and Palestinian rightmaxxing so the jews can be sacrificed on the multicultural altar. @cjet79 is absolutely correct that the leak of this groupchat is lame pointscoring at its worst and in fact reinforces the notion that leftists are hypocritical scolds (we can celebrate charlie kirk getting capped but nono words are proof of the Bad Nazi!)
If there was another group that was categorically evil and widely understood as such the left would totally use that label on their enemies. The problem for the left is that the term has been so devalued thanks to overuse that the right can just yeschad the accusation, and the shifting of the overon window has made previously verboten issues like black underachievement fit for discussing now.
2D3D
16d ago
China doesn't care which tribe runs the ports, only that the trade flows. Balochis could exterminate every Pakistani but as long Gwardar port remains open for COSCO it doesn't matter. Similarly, choking down chinese cock doesn't matter if you have something they want like the Filipinos are experiencing.
Chinese supplies both rebels and Junta in the Myanmar Civil War and Thais as well as Cambodians in that war. It aided North Vietnam and then slapped it to stop the Soviet pivot. China is friend to all and none, uninterested in eschatological ideological alignment. I'm not even convinced Taiwan is a real desired conflict as much as it is an internal justification for taking the fight against the USN outside Chinese territory.
Rogue state proliferation is a major concern and that may force expeditionary interventions but for the moment the USA is keen to take that burden for itself. Ironically the most likely rogue state China is concerned about is North Korea, and that damocles hanging over South Korea and Japan is equally aimable at China. Pakistan falling would see India or Israel get nuked by jihadis, Russia falling would probably see Israel or USA get the brunt of it. In the cascading list of great satans the dispossessed third world wants dead, China ranks relatively distantly.
2D3D
16d ago
I agree in concept since thats just an obvious operational reality like how china got H100s through alternative sources, but ultimately it still means its a critical bottleneck that was neither defended against nor avoided in advance.
I think its fair to say that this forum accepts the disadvantages of immigration as prima facie but the cultural overhang of the 2010s is casting a shadow too long and comprehensive to be avoided. I sincerely think the Chinese century will be worse for the world, mainly because the global efficiency subsidy of the pax americana has benefitted many smaller nations that would have fought unnecessary kinetic conflicts without uncle sams threat Implication. China is more likely to revert to a neo-Ming semi tributary system to focus on its internal population and if the rest of the world burns in unnecessary conflict what impact could it have on the heavenly kingdom.
2D3D
17d ago
Much of the REE debate is centered on critical dependencies that have turned out to be more difficult to replace or domestically produce than previously anticipated. The big issue I repeat is that rare earth dependency is not actually that sophisticated a tool for China to have deployed because most of their demand ends up being internal and the dollar value of said exports is minimal, so their more potent tools for trade war aren't even felt by governments yet. If you think REE is bad wait till lipo battery, semiconductor precursor and active pharmaceutical restrictions kick in. Too much intermediate materials on unfinished and finished states are reliant on China and the logistical hyper efficiency there is the leveraged advantage, which doesn't disappear just because USA isnt buying it anymore.
Current technological bottlenecks for the USA are bad but the flywheel effect of domestic AI clusters paired with mature industrial ecosystems could be even more critical in tilting a permanent advantage to China. You can build a gigafactory and a data cluster in USA, but if you dont have the supporting ecosystem of toolmakers and logistics ERP in place then you're losing out geometrically if not exonentially with every development cycle because stacking advantages are contingent on a kature ecosystem not new toys.
2D3D
17d ago
The Gazipur level industrial waste heap is just one small section of the REE plant.
2D3D
17d ago
The kill chain for antiair starts at detection and current air ops favor terrain hugging with popup approach for strikes. As such kills are almost predetermined by baiting bandits to an ambush location, not one to one fights in the air. Operation Sindoors furball is textbook what NOT to do, and the Ukrainians lacking cueing radars to allow extreme range missiles without using ones own radar. Plus, the F16s Ukraine received are all ancient block A MLU so they have no AESA radar at all. Maybe link16 but that's still useless without a cueing platform.
In any case industrial capacity doesn't matter as much as legacy stocks because you can't just whip up a thousand eurofighters on demand. This isn't WW2 where tractor factories could make T34s and piano makers could make planes Spitfires. A modern combat platform is far more advanced and just the factory to make one is a dedicated multiyear investment to get operational let alone the rate of production. Inventories are nice to have but those take up space and are either tempting targets for sabotage or logistical nightmares to get to the front.
2D3D
18d ago
On the contrary, I believe that it is the fact that dicks don't actually need to be cut off that is the cause of the modern trans movements problems. Autogynephiliacs like Andrea Long Chu get to pretend they're one of the girls while openly discussing how much they want their dicks to be shoved into lesbians. The celebration of the dicked in the realm of the dickless is the precise shear point that drives many LGB and ACTUAL T people away from the Queer+ crowd.
As such I openly proclaim myself an obligate trans maximalist. Are you trans? Great! Heres some painkillers and a knife. Chop it off and live your life as the woman your dysphoria say you are! It is a costless exercise for dysphorics because the penis is a reminder of their eternal trauma for being in the wrong body, PER THEIR OWN STATEMENTS.
A man wants to be socialized and go into girls spaces? Then fucking BE a 'social girl'. Be the girliest fucking femboy, giggling at boys and wearing thigh highs and spreading bussy to get topped by Chad. But don't pretend singing Golden from memory and dreaming of eat pray loving through your dissatisfied thirties means you get the womens-reserved corner spot. Game devs in the west exploded in female representation, but only because men got to pretend to be women without needing any effort other than growing hair long.
2D3D
18d ago
What I find fascinating is Nate Silvers total excommunication from the Left because he dared challenge the orthodoxy about polling favoring eternal progressivism, and his polling baby has been butchered into an ABC-owned politics focused The View with slightly less irritating panelists. David Shor nearly got excommunicated as well because he dared suggest that violent protests like the Floyd riots weren't helpful. Shor genuflected and abased himself by saying his findings were harmful, Silver stood his ground. It is unsurprising that Silver maintains a grudge against his moralizing peers.
2D3D
18d ago
Blue tribers hedge so they can retreat and use tone defense. 'I was never aggressive and I never actually said that thing so your hostility is proof of your intellectual inferiority in being unable to muster a defense on the grounds of discussion'. That is why two liberal debate shows seem like people taking turns to smugly condescend to each other (or to others) rather than two people having an argument on the same topic. Just watch any Ezra Klein video to see that in action.
2D3D
18d ago
Rare earth refining is a regulatory issue on heavy metal contamination for groundwater and waste disposal, which is itself critical to even perform the refining in the first place due to the circular recycling of outputs to generate usable high purity rare earths. You can't just Abundance permitwaive your way to rare earth mastery, you need a whole ecosystem of internal processes to even get something useful to begin with. Rare earths are a definitional misnomer because the elements are everywhere, but what IS rare is the critical processing mass necessary to even get something usable for modern high end technology.
I think what is highly underappreciated is how differentiated rare earth streams actually are. A single refiner can't actually just take in any raw material and convert it to intermediate rare earths, it requires significant chemical injection at many stages of the industrial separation process before it can be refined for intermediate stage. Rare earths is actually a humongously heterogenous process, so institutional knowledge is not 1-1 transferrable across different types of rare earths. Thats not to include all the corrosion effects that happen at transportation stages between facilities which require networked facilities with clear logistics between them. Chinese investments in clean tech and workers safety isn't because they valued human life, its because the usable material at the end of the process is useless if Wangs wang is inside the smelter. This is why you can't do either western permitwaiving or third world bodywasting to get a REE facility spun up at all, let alone quickly or economically viably.
What makes Chinas REE export ban so troubling is that China isn't actually losing out that much economically from it - as OP stated, REE isn't actually that expensive on a unit cost basis. However for receiving so little direct pain this causes huge downstream problems for other manufacturers elsewhere. This is frankly a repeat of the recycling debacle which ended the economic viability of shipping recyclable materials to China for processing, except the economic effects are more directly felt.
Stockpiling for rare earths is also a dead end. End output metals like neodynium etc are oxygen and moisture sensitive, so stockpiling is normally in terms of intermediate products... which still need refiners after that. WW2 saw fighter engines produced by the thousand, but honestly the more relevant example is WW1, where phosphate import restrictions forced Germany to develop the Haber process to continue arms manufacturing. I'm sure there are smart dicks at DARPA who are trying to find materials that can overcome REE or other foreign dependencies, but if it turns out chips and magnets really are only manufacturable in certain locations and reshoring is impossible then honestly the world can turn really ugly really fast.
2D3D
19d ago
That claim holds only if Hasan expressed acceptability if heterogenous morality. His own stated moral framings are uncompromising and totalizing, morality as he defines it being foundationally right with no room for alternative moral heuristics. That he expresses sympathy for islamists and lgbt rights simultaneously is internal incoherence, not heterodoxy tolerance. Some conflicts do test this incoherence more, and livestreaming animal abuse is one of them. If he had a white skinhead paid to be whipped in the cuck chair that'd be fine for his morality, but reddit aww updooters are part of his moral universe and that is why this is breaking his world.
2D3D
19d ago
I legit cannot tell if the spirited defense of "its just a dog bro make it suffer" are honestly held opinions about directional cruelty or just hasan stans desperately trying to downplay an obvious act of on air abuse.
Its not even like "dont abuse animals" is some niche position, the whole point of the leftist omnicause is to assign reputational damage to those who abuse those on the oppression scale. If Hasan beat up a white skinhead he'd have been ok, but he shock collared an animal that existed for reddit updoots. Thats haram no matter how you cut it.
2D3D
19d ago
I wish to just confirm: a leftist womans hinge profile actively said she wants someone who looks like Hasan Piker? Setting aside the ick of saying "look like my favorite husbando", couldn't there have been any better fucking "this guy be my schlickbait" dakimakura? even Zoran Mamdani would be a better husbando.
2D3D
23d ago
Only the original Frank Herbert incarnation of arresting motivation death, not brians retarded machine war.
2D3D
23d ago
I worry more than our outputs arent being scraped anymore and the LLM is simply relying on the internal reward function from user feedback for what should be presented. AI isnt trained on kiwifarms or 4chan, its trained on /r/bakchodi shitposters mass upvoting the best antipakistani brainrot generated by the ai.
2D3D
23d ago
I have done nothing but recursively prompt loop AI on the merits of good faith discourse coupled with healthy eating habits and healthy boundaries enforcable by kinetic measures. My big titty robowaifu will be objectivepy superior to yours trained on mere public presentations scraped from themotte.
2D3D
23d ago
I asked my gay friends what the chart absent the stated axes were and it became "who would you rather top" and "who would you rather be bottomed for". Not that reductionism is more common in gay circles, but this status differentiation mapping cleanly was somewhat hilarious. I bet if I had female friends who were kore racially adventurous I'd get a similar dynamic.
We aren't elcor who need to prefix our emotional framing with our statements, we can simply read a statement in its isolation and make the value judgment. It should be pointed out that 'Great. I love Hitler' is about as anodyne a statement as 'Great. I love mac and cheese', meaning context is actually necessary to understand the totality of that statements value and renders the statement useless as a singular point of evidence. If you have to ask 'what did you mean when you said you love hitler' it means that 'i love hitler' has been so degraded as a totalizing phrase that you can't make any associated terms stick with it. That is entirely the lefts fault for making Everything I Don't Like Is Hitler.
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