ArjinFerman
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ohhh wait, people were not abusing that system? I'm not from the west though, so my baseline is probably lower trust than most readers here.
Yes. Going from a low-trust to a high-trust society was one of the things that blew my mind when I visited the US. High-trust systems no longer working is probably one of the biggest downsides of immigration, which will not be measurable until it's too late, and won't be easily attributable to it by any data you can gather, so The Experts will be able to gaslight people about it until the heat death of the universe.
Another thing is their electoral system. It's security is laughable by any objective measure, but it more or less worked until now due to high trust. Even if the previous election was more or less fair, it's only a question of time until someone decides to abuse it.
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1d ago
Well again, it's not that I don't sympathize, it's just it seems to be the times we're living in, everybody seems to be looking for a immutable-identity-scapegoat. If it's just two-three people on the whole forum that doesn't even seem to be so bad, compared to places like Reddit. Block, and move on, I guess.
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1d ago
Touché!
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1d ago
owning the libs (nobody cares who ADL or JIDF are here, of course, or even knows them - it's mainly that the left has traditionally been pro-Palestine for anticolonial/(post-)pro-Soviet reasons, so the enemy of my enemy thinking has quite naturally directed right-wingers to be pro-Israel
This works both ways, and for any point between the extremes. I really don't think there's a position on the issue that you can take, that doesn't own the libs in some fashion.
How many levels of tiresomeness are you on?
On one hand I do sympathize, but after a decade of listening to how cis-straight-white-males are responsible for all of society's ills, I'm tempted to ask you to take a number, and go to the end of the queue.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
You can't escape western media.
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3d ago
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3d ago
Some comedians were complaining about how the world is impossible to parody nowadays, but this is taking it to a whole new level. I mean... I can keep adding layers, but it's not going to push it from "real news" to satire...
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3d ago
Your posts are great. They're too advanced for to interact with beyond upvoting or AAQCing, but I love reading them.
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4d ago
It's not like there isn't room to criticize past societies, but I don't get the whole equality angle. Even feminists don't want equality.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
It's like we have become allergic to actual news or something.
Sort of. There's a few reasons for it:
- Seen it all before.
- The intro to the thread explicitly discourages "look at what these people did" posts
- After nearly a decade of commenting on this sort of stuff, I don't think there's a lot more to be said about any of it.
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4d ago
This came off wrong... I meant "embrace Davos conspiracy theories"....
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4d ago
It's been as while since I was into econ, so I'll probably butcher some of these ideas, but some brilliant soul had the idea that the best way to model the behavior of individual companies is to a assume their actions can have no impact on supply, demand, employment or any broader trend. They're scarcely more than amoebas in the ocean, driven by forces far beyond their comprehension, let alone their ability to influence them. It is this form of analysis, a vain attempt to present itself of as rational, that I think is the cope, and it's probably worse in politics than it was in economics.
The situation circa 2010 was uniquely suited to a libertarian opposition.
I don't see how that explains anything. It's not like the move away from libertarianism was primarily motivated by the opposition to the left, which is still extremely hostile to it. It was a repudiation of the neocon agenda first. To the extent it went against libertarianism, it was focused on economics, and to the extent that was different from what the establishment of either party wanted to do, it boiled down to the opposition immigration and free trade. Even after Trump took power, he did remarkably little to exercise it in order to implement a cultural agenda. At the tail end of his presidency we started seeing some executive orders that would herald the type of opposition we see coming from DeSantis and Abbot, but they came so late that Biden repealed them before they could have any impact.
In my opinion this shows that his timeline is mostly correct, and the fact that DeSantis and Abbot are being singled out for criticism shows they're doing something different from the other Republican governors.
"The right realizing that they were at war", might not be the right explanation for what we're seeing, but at least it's an explanation. I still don't see your argument as anything more than a restatement of the fact that the right moved away from libertarianism.
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5d ago
My impression is that they don't have enough mana to pull off anything like that this year.
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5d ago
I think what you’re observing is better explained by the libertarian wing receding from its high-water mark during Obama’s presidency.
I don't see how that's an explanation rather than a restatement of the original observation.
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5d ago
Sure. I don't really care about net votes, but I do care about the opinion of particular people. I used to be on a forum with public upvotes, I think it was pretty cool.
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5d ago
Why should they be?
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5d ago
All of that's fine, but check out the linked 4chan thread, there's clearly a whole bunch of people getting the hots for her just due to the voice.
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5d ago
there's no fucking shot that female voice is not intentional
also @self_made_human, I have no idea what you lot are on about, she sounds fake as fuck.
Anyway, can't believe anyone gave credence to Yud and the Rats, and their convoluted AGI X-risk scenarios, when the end of the human race is clearly going to come from slightly more sophisticated chatbots turning everyone into volcels.
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6d ago
Sorry didn't see the other comment. Still, I don't see how wokeness isn't just about tolerating overrepresentation. The Chinese deal at least gives me pause, if you offered me the Russian one, I wouldn't even bat an eye.
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6d ago
If the policy was time-limited like in China, sure.
It is simply indisputable that China is more leftist about this kind of thing than the US
We were talking about wokism, not leftism.
Also note how you completely dropped Russia from your argument.
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6d ago
Reject white nationalism.
Embrace Davos conspiracies.
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6d ago
I could imagine it of there was a billion Americans, and it came with none of the self-flagellation. Sorry but there just is no comparison between the two approaches.
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6d ago
Do their military contractors have bizarre struggle sessions over Han / Russian privilege? Do their major corporations tell workers to be less Han / Russian?
If not then this is just cope.
Fighting entropy is a noble act. It's sitting in traffic that we should eliminate
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