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Friday Fun Thread for March 22, 2024

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Dune Part 2 was the last movie I saw in theatres and cannot recommend it enough. It is similar to LOTR in the sense that it is able to showcase a lot of loyalty to one's aristocracy or ruling clans in a way that all people can relate to. The movie is majestic, grand, an epic in the real sense. I loved Javier Bardem the most and recommend everyone to go watch it.

Concur about Javier Bardem. Best part of the movie.

I watched it with my wife, after renting part one for her to catch up. I've known the ins and outs of Dune since I was 13 and read all the books. She was utterly lost, and I can't blame her. The movies barely touch on why the spice is important. I know the director is a "Show, don't tell" guy, but even Lynch filled his movies with scenes of characters consuming mass quantities of spice to fuel their otherworldly abilities. Mentats, Guild Navigators, Bene Gesserit. We got none of that in the new movies.

I really disliked the "romance" between Paul and Chani. I think I counted one singular tender moment between them, and the rest was Chani talking down to him and scowling. I had to explain to my wife that in the books, and even the other adaptations, their romance is basically the perfect fated experience. That by the end of the first book they'd already had, and lost, a child together. That when Paul took the princess as essentially a hostage for the throne, Chani gloated that she was Paul's true wife, and Irulan would never be so much as touched by Paul. That far from it being Chani's humiliation, it was Irulan's.

So yeah, it was a feast for the eyes. Javier Bardem was amazing. Otherwise nearly all the themes and complexity of the books were lost or muddled with current year nonsense.

I have a soft spot for the director, perhaps his aim is to create a visual feast first movie that has time constraints. I am aware of the dune mythos and I liked the movie given the movies that have come out recently. It was unique and though nothing can ever compete with the books, it is a good interpretation regardless and is a great movie if seen in isolation from the books which I think is alright given that movies inherently cannot prtray the same level of depth written things can.

I know the director is a "Show, don't tell" guy, but even Lynch filled his movies with scenes of characters consuming mass quantities of spice to fuel their otherworldly abilities. Mentats, Guild Navigators, Bene Gesserit. We got none of that in the new movies

Yeah, I found it disappointing too.

So yeah, it was a feast for the eyes. Javier Bardem was amazing. Otherwise nearly all the themes and complexity of the books were lost or muddled with current year nonsense.

What current year nonsense? please do elaborate, I did not see an overly political agenda being pushed by it.

What current year nonsense? please do elaborate, I did not see an overly political agenda being pushed by it.

I mean, just Chani and Paul's entire dynamic. Mother fucker is a god king and she still treats him like something she found on her boot. Like I said, they took this fated love from the books, and turned it into yet another girlboss scenario. You literally cannot show a woman treating a man with respect or kindness on the silver screen anymore. Much less deference.

Yeah, it was unnecessarily vitriolic and they cut out important parts of their relationships as well, besides chanis behavior, did you find any other subtle or overt political messages n the movie that you would say are more the same current year bs?

You literally cannot show a woman treating a man with respect or kindness on the silver screen anymore.

From what I remember Lady Jessica was plenty kind to Leto and Paul.

She is also portrayed as a much more antagonistic character in this movie than in the books.

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