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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 11, 2024

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Eh. Antisemitism is spreading faster than knowledge of polygenic scores, haplogroups, or high East Asian IQ, but it's more accurate IMO to say that base-level anti-nonwhite sentiment / white nationalism is spreading faster than sophisticated 'HBD'. Openly antisemitic tweets sometimes get tens of thousands of likes. But looking at this account, which very frequently gets 20k likes and sometimes more, the focus is mostly on black people and immigrants. I wouldn't really call that antisemitism having more potency than HBD, just different variants of things spreading among smarter people and more normal people. "Black people do crime a lot and are kinda dumb" is definitely the closest thing to HBD that'll get 50k likes. Musk often interacts with the iamyesyouareno account. (glancing at his likes, musk also just liked a BAP tweet, lol, as usual the tweet's vaguely something one might agree with but literally completely wrong)

Antisemitism seems to have less potency among even what passes for 'elites' on far-right twitter recently - they'll signal towards it in an edgy way but not really endorse it - reasons I've seen from people like that are: because most smart people are very socially integrated with jews at this point, because so many influential people in the scene are part or wholly jewish, because 'wignat antisemitism', when looked at objectively, seems kinda cringe and stupid, especially if you're someone who was all in on it as a teenager, and because it doesn't seem to have a path to power anyway. And among "elites" who are clearly influenced by the far-right sphere of ideas but are nevertheless more serious and less anonymous, antisemitism has very little purchase compared to HBD.

The Jewish RW e-celebs (BAP, russiancosmist, FbF, etc.) also tend to go in the hardest on the hardcore hatred of blacks and browns, presumably to take a little heat off of themselves since they know a huge portion of their audience is Jew-hating wignats.

I don't think that's their reasoning. Mostly they're reacting to the Nick Fuentes strain of antisemitism which is essentially third-worldist at its core, lamenting supposed Jewish predations against hapless black and brown people, who in the Fuentes-verse imagining are just trying to live in peace, and who would surely never be coming to the West in such large numbers were it not for the wars instigated by global Jewry.

I think it’s both, one can’t deny that they’re obviously less drawn to antisemitism for transparent personal reasons, but they also correctly point out how flawed the thirdworldist “enemy of my enemy” arguments are in a way that many gentile reactionary commentators also do. It’s hard to know what Fuentes believes, he started off parroting /pol/ as a teenager, I don’t think he had time to develop ideologically before he established his particular grift, so he’s mostly just following his audience.

BAP is a mischling, the rest are making fun out of you for being 'antisemitism first' type. (pun on Ameríca First, the Fuentes organisation)

You’re sure Martin isn’t? Interesting.

I remember the moment. Basically everyone mildly thoughtful declared they're Jewish too, some Fuentards fell for it and didn't get the joke.

I don't follow any of them closely enough to know, but the only times I remember those martin, 2cb, etc claiming to be jewish it seemed obviously ironic / a way to 'own' the wignats, so idk

Well BAP at least is (23&Me results and everything), Martin tends to get really defensive around the Jews/Israel but yeah RW twitter is generally just a huge welter of "you're jewish" accusations and counteraccusations so I'm not 100%. My favorite is the absolute refusal of a large number of users to accept that self-declared mass immigration advocate and Klaus Schwab enjoyer Richard Hanania could possibly be a gentile.

Hanania’s a gentile but he’s also Palestinian so most wignats would consider him nonwhite or an edge-case at best. I think Martin is Jewish since he talks about it all the time. 2CB or fbf could be trolling, I doubt it though since they all seem to be at least loosely zionist and very much anti-Hamas in a way most gentile wignats aren’t.

Martin isn't Jewish if your standard of evidence is posting images of 23andme results not sourced from Google images (he's NW European, mostly English iirc). He's also talked about his Christian background on spaces.

Like most posters in BAP's clique, he's critical of "third-worldist" anti-Zionism and lowbrow antisemitism in general.

FBF is trolling (he’s Croatian) but 2CB is a maybe…

On the other hand as my friend said the other day “Oh a guy at a far right event at [Redacted RW event space in Manhattan] - of course he’s Jewish”!

Well BAP at least is (23&Me results and everything),

Not at all saying this happened, but I were BAP I'd absolutely fake a test showing I was jewish and post it. You can just lie on the internet!

True, but in BAP’s case The Atlantic tracked down his family when they doxxed him and essentially said (without directly declaring) that they were Jewish.

I think that’s probably true. Second City Bureaucrat is Jewish too, aren’t they?

I think so, but Groypers call everybody who disagrees with them Jewish, so it's kind of hard to tell sometimes.

Yes, I mean self-declared, as the others on your list are. That alone is a not insubstantial portion of the top influencers in that space, though of course that was always the case.

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