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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 26, 2024

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Anti HBD is used to promote discrimination based on the idea that underperformers are oppressed by evil racist groups. Moreover, to the extend that there is redistribution from one ethnic group in favor of others, then HBD reveals this fact and that rather than contempt for inequality remaining, appreciation for being helped can be the more honest and ethical response.

Anti HBD promotes discrimination, mistreatment of those who don't buy into it and is part of the lysenkoist regime where people whose views don't fit to it are slandered or implied to be nazi or nazi adjesent. This kind of regime leads to a lot of discirmination and worse. It leads to good people censored and losing their career. It has lead to murders too as in the Soviet Union.

It is a bad thing to slander and keep down people who believe something that is true. Truth matters. I would also say that it is a bad thing to promote falsehoods and people who promote them to have high status due to doing so.

However it is also detrimental relating to the problems of suppressing facts. You can't adequately deal with problems if you are living in a fantasy world. For example, if like most American liberals you are polled to have a wrong idea of black criminality and police shooting of blacks, then you are going to reach the wrong recommendations about what ought to be done, and even consider the correct policies to be racist.

Indeed, part of correct response to crime that could be effective could even involve say racial profiling. Knowing the facts leads to a more informed decision which can lead to less crime victims and a better society. Indeed, ironically black Americans would probably benefit more by policies that are realistic and focuses more than a politically correct regime would upon the demographic that a very disproportionate share of the violent crime which is young black men.

You are making a circular argument since by using the term discrimination, you seem to be using it under the connotation of prejudice, and unfairness.

I would also consider HBD and being even more willing to oppose mass migration of foreigners because many would be of lower human capital and net drain financially, to also be a case of non unethical/prejudiced narrative, but in fact the opposite as the idea that a people are not sovereign and don't have self determination to be ruled in favor of their interests and should be pathologically altruist in favor of foreign groups at their expense would be anti native racist. Knowing HBD helps people take a more informed decision on issues like mass migration. Which is one of the reasons is suppressed, so people take a more uninformed pro migration decision.

That being said I do think certain HBD narratives could be used to justify bad things and should be kept down. We have seen them in motte more so in the Israel/Palestinian conflict where certain posters have justified violation of human rights and destruction of Palestinians in part by using the arguement of them being inferior to the superior race of the Jews. I do think this kind of support of destruction of a group is obviously incredibly unethical. But we should be supressing and treating as taboo and being unpleasant and willing to give backlash, and keeping out of influence to the people who have such view, this kind of narrative/viewpoint, not HBD as a whole.

We should be hostile to "We do better and we are superior, give us all your stuff" for the same reason that we should be hostile towards "We do worse, give us all your stuff so we aren't inferior" deserves hostility. So a certain ethical prior is necessary. Or at minimum not accepting the premise that inequalities of such manner justify taking from others what is rightfully theirs.

So yeah, there is an element of unfairness HBD narrative (which is a narrative that uses HBD and not something inherent to it) that I am not against being critical off, but HBD is also related to narratives that are good and useful and even most importantly undermine some very harmful anti-HBD narratives I explained in the beginning, and are in fact dominant and doing a lot of damage right now.

Interestingly, on an individual basis the belief of human differences in intelligence is quite common and that does tend to come along with views more in line to what I promote here. We also see the belief in biological differences in ability to become muscular in discussions related to fitness to lead to something more in line with what I promote. Imagine how stupid discussions about fitness where if people denied biological athletic differences. It is simply efficient and useful knowledge for society.

The arrogance of the people who think suppressing truths is noble and only bad motives could lead to promoting truths is really astounding. It is in fact far more the case that falsehoods and lies are motivated by bad intentions.

Much of that relates to the desire to win politically by buying into the sacredness of one's political faction and evil of opposition, which is a false view. For if your faction was so noble, and your opposition so evil, your political faction wouldn't have to win by suppressing the truth.

We should be hostile to "We do better and we are superior, give us all your stuff" for the same reason that we should be hostile towards "We do worse, give us all your stuff so we aren't inferior" deserves hostility. So a certain ethical prior is necessary. Or at minimum not accepting the premise that inequalities of such manner justify taking from others what is rightfully theirs.

The left has been sufficiently successful at constraining the Overton window such that people—including HBD-adjacent crime-thinkers—forget the opposite of affirmative action and reparations is not colorblindness, but rather massive transfers of resources and opportunities from blacks and latinos to whites and Asians.

If a racial spoils system is on the table, and if not for fears of Cancellation, why shouldn’t whites and Asians advocate for themselves instead of bending the knee and washing feet? Colorblindness is already the compromise position.

If a racial spoils system is on the table, and if not for fears of Cancellation, why shouldn’t whites and Asians advocate for themselves instead of bending the knee and washing feet?

Asians are. Whites won't, because for elite whites it's unthinkable and whites for whom it is thinkable for are irrelevant "deplorables" who can simply be shut down by any means available.

Sure, Asian Americans sometimes exhibit more asabiyyah than white Americans. However, that’s like being richer than someone with zero or negative net worth, having more backbone than someone with zero or negative self worth. And I had hypothetical offensive rather than defensive self-advocacy in mind, hence the mentioning of a “racial spoils system.”

Asian Americans do sometimes manage to muster up some defensive advocacy, like showing up to vote against affirmative action in UC schools or mildly objecting to their grannies getting bustled in the street. However, they lack the ethno-narcissism, the offensive self-advocacy of blacks (and to a lesser extent, latinos) in demanding to be treated better than other races in law, politics, governance, education, employment, healthcare, entertainment and mainstream media in an absolute sense, not just relative to the current state of affairs.

In such arenas, Asian self-advocacy ends where black and latino feelings begin. For example, in the link you provided, I clicked around a few pages and didn’t see anywhere Noticing as to who is actually committing the acts of AAPI hatred. No “despite”-posting… despite… how relevant it’d be. #StopAsianHate quickly lost momentum as it became undeniable who was actually doing the granny-punching. For decades now it’s pretty typical that the Asian thought-leader responses to black-on-Asian violence are calls for solidarity (presumably, to create a united front against the true bad persons that are whites) and not RETVRN TO ROOFTOP. Any Asian solidarity with blacks is and/or would be unreciprocated—a one-way street—for interracial crime, net-income transfers, and racial preferences flow only unidirectionally.

It’s also funny that the website is #StopAAPIHate, I suppose a movement having evolved from #StopAsianHate, when basically all the external violence inflicted is upon the AA rather than PI part. I guess it was a strategic maneuver to bring a more fashionable minority group (or, at least, a less unfashionable one) under the fold for optics and numbers. A lot more violence against PIs relative to AAs is intra-group violence, a phenomenon young PI men would be happy to tell you, reminisce and/or brag about.

In mainstream spaces, Western-raised Asian women will sometimes bemoan that, historically, Asian women have been depicted as submissive, exotic sex objects, rather than kickass #GirlBosses. Asian men will sometimes bemoan (and the odd Asian woman here or there, even if it just so happens her boyfriend/husband is white, teehee) why there aren’t more masculine Asian men depicted in film, television, music, as opposed to Asian minstrel shows that make them look like small-dicked asexuals, such as Ken Jeong’s Hangover character. A eunuch has more dignity than that. Even in The Departed, where the Asian mob characters don’t look like obvious pushovers, Nicholson’s character basically calls them small-dicked chinks to their faces while the audience laughs. Nicholson's character calling an analogous group of black mobsters a bunch of low-IQ chimps would be far less imaginable.

Yet, the same Asian men and women won’t dare ask why so many doctors and scientists are so blackwashed in TV and film at the expense of Asians, in contrary to the proportions in real life. Just like Asian Americans might sometimes complain about and oppose affirmative action, but only insofar as they are discriminated against relative to whites, and avoiding the elephant in the room that are racial preferences against them and in favor of blacks and latinos.

Yes, in ${CurrentYear} Asian Americans barely exhibit any sort of defensive self-advocacy and no material offensive self-advocacy, and whites exhibit neither defensive or offensive material positive self-advocacy, oftentimes negative self-advocacy. Supposed white supremacists like Steve Sailer or whoever exhibit but a fraction of the in-group preference (if Sailer even does at all) that blacks do in the mainstream. Black in-group preference is tolerated and encouraged, codified in law and practice.

White Americans—and to a lesser extent, Asian Americans—currently don’t (or barely) engage in any self-advocacy, but it’s not some fundamental law of the universe that they can’t or won’t. And perhaps they should.

Cooperating with defect bots is a quokka’s venture. If a colorblind system isn’t in play, where the chips fall where they may, then who gets the racial spoils is up for debate. Yes, madam, we’ve established what sort of system you want. Now we’re just haggling over in which direction the literal and metaphorical checks should be cut, and in what quantities.