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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 14, 2024

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Traditionally, even the losers in the US have been quite principled and put country over party, and their own specific interests.

Even Nixon stepped down.

You’re trying to justify a race to the bottom instead of calling out unjustified behavior.

No non-authoritarian system of government is going to do well with unprincipled, unreasonable behavior at scale.

You’re trying to justify a race to the bottom instead of calling out unjustified behavior.

No, those objecting to the election shenanigans are trying to call out bad behavior. Those excusing them on the grounds that it's bad to question elections are attempting to elevate the appearance of legitimacy over actual legitimacy.

You’re doing the motte n bailey between “were things perfect” and “was the election rigged/stolen.”

Instances of bad behavior can be acknowledged and we are still nowhere near what was claimed by Trump or TTV.

Nobody is even "acknowledging" "bad behavior".

It does not follow from "The election has not been demonstrated to hostile adjudicators to be as bad as was claimed by Trump or TTV" that "The election may not have been perfect but it was good enough".

Well there’s a great deal of evidence from all the recounts and investigations that in fact it was good enough.

We have a ton of procedures in place so that the baseline is supposed to be “good enough.”

Hanging chads and glitches and Covid issues can all still happen, even low-level fraud, but that’s pretty far away from the claims made that 2020 was illegitimate.

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