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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 22, 2024

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"It's OK to sell duct tape, knives, ropes, and large black plastic bags" does not imply "It's OK to sell duct tape, knives, ropes, and large black plastic bags to a guy you know works for a serial killer"

Outlawing sting operations does not seem to be a good idea.

Controlling police to prevent incompetent sting operations seems a good idea (and in general having some good handle over police).

No sting operation was actually executed. No actionable evidence was gathered, no convictions were secured. Both the weapons and the criminals trafficking them were allowed to escape. The federal agent who blew the whistle on the fuckup was very obviously punished for doing so. The agents who failed to secure either the weapons or the criminals were rewarded and promoted. The Attorney General successfully stonewalled congress when it attempted an investigation.

I do not think that sequence of events is fairly described as a "sting operation", nor do I think its failure can be reasonably ascribed to "incompetence". Given the politically-charged nature of the incident, given the complete lack of consequences for those responsible, and given how those responsible appear to have been deliberately protected by their superiors and by the Obama administration itself, and given that the many remaining unknowns are unknown only because the Obama administration fought successfully and at great length to conceal them, I do not think it prudent to give either the agents involved or the administration directing them the benefit of the doubt.

You seem to really underestimate just how incredibly incompetent people can be and overestimate how often complex black flag operations are executed in real life.

Or maybe I overestimate how many things are bungled due to incompetence and underestimate presence of highly complex nefarious plots.

(may be related to fact that in my area I seen amazing examples of extreme stupidity, bad planning, incompetence, denial of reality - and have seen accusations of nefarious plots mismatching reality. I was even personally accused of running some complex conspiracy few times, that has not existed - unless I am some case of bizarre reverse schizophrenia.)

The federal agent who blew the whistle on the fuckup was very obviously punished for doing so.

How this proves anything? I am pretty sure that if institution is rotten then they would do the same in case of conspiracy and out of scale fuckup.

Oh and note that the same claim without

in an apparent attempt to generate support for gun control legislation

would probably not trigger such nitpicking and disbelief from my side. Probably focusing on provable and mostly covered up part would be more effective, at least in my case.

So you want morality checks, employment histories and doctor’s referrals on all purchases of duct tape? Unless they’ve been proven guilty, they’re free citizens allowed to buy goods for any suspected killer they choose.

No. I want federal agents to enforce the law against known criminals. No morality checks or employment histories or doctor's referrals were needed in these cases; the gun dealers reported the purchasers to federal authorities on their own initiative, because they correctly recognized illegal purchases.