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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 22, 2024

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Pakistan and Pashto groups have been in conflict for a long time. Palestinians are often the same ethnic group as a large portion of the surrounding countries. They clearly don't want many of the holiest sites in Islam occupied by jews.

Maybe 30 years ago. Saudis already signed off on Jewish ownership. Your statement is no longer correct.

Why would Christians and Jews want many of the holiest sites in Christendom and Judaism occupied by Muslims?

A lot of Palestinians are christians and if anything the muslims see Jesus and the biblical stories as a part of their religion. Most importantly, it means 7 million Palestinians stay in Palestine and we don't get another massive neocon refugee crisis on Europe's doorstep. Europe and the middle east both benefit from stable middle eastern regimes. Israel wants destabilize the region.

Europe and the middle east both benefit from stable middle eastern regimes.

As far as I know, historically speaking, the only times the region has been 'stable' was when it was ruled by a single empire. Similar to Iraq's Sunni-Shia fighting only being tamped down while Saddam was in power.

So this seems like an argument for European re-establishing the region as a colony.

Like, do you apply the same standards to the Balkans region of Europe itself? Would we benefit if control of the entire region to one of the local powers? Would Europe benefit from stable Eastern European regimes?

Compare Libya under Gadaffi and after Israel-supporters wrecked it. Iran, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia are fairly stable states because there hasn't been intervention. Egypt is stable and peaceful. There is no reason why Palestine can't function as well as Egypt.

So this seems like an argument for European re-establishing the region as a colony.'

It is the opposite. Every time the neocons send troops to the middle east we get flooded with migrants. The best policy for the west is to get out of the middle east, support stable regimes and ending support for Israel.

I generally support smaller states. However, in south eastern Europe bigger alliances are needed to defend Europe's borders from invasions from the middle east.

t is the opposite. Every time the neocons send troops to the middle east we get flooded with migrants. The best policy for the west is to get out of the middle east, support stable regimes and ending support for Israel.

This is conspiracy theorism. Israel didnt care about Gaddafi. Sure, they disliked him. But Libya isnt anywhere close to Israel. He wasnt even remotely a threat. He was just some oil corrupt Arab dictator not even at their borders, why would Israel care about deposing him?

Gaddafi getting deposed was a French operation of neocolonialism. Blame Western "morality" for it, not any Israeli or Jewish interest that even remotely cared about Libya. France just simply liked to have power over North Africa, and it was their belief they could change the region for the better. They were wrong

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529789/user-clip-benjamin-netanyahu-projects-benefits-war-iraq-2002

AIPAC has been pushing hard for warmongering in the middle east.

Netanyahu wasnt Prime Minister than. Ariel Sharon was. He was neutral about the war in Iraq. Just because some minister had an opinion doesnt make it official Israeli policy. And Netanyahu was finance minister, not even Foreign Affairs minister.