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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 15, 2024

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Bro, I think you have something here, but do you mind effortposting instead of just going ‘have you considered Hobbes was right?’? Getting a bit tiresome.

I have, multiple times, at length. Though it has been a while so maybe I ought to do some sort of recap/refresher. In any case a bunch of recent posts and comments on multiple topics (be it Trump, the Border, Id Pol, Claudine Gay) are all tickling the same corner of my hind-brain that talking to my humanities professor as a 30 year-old "freshman" did.

I read posts like the OP's I really do think that there is just a fundamental lack of understanding not just on the surface level but on I'm not sure that we share a sufficiently common language for me to even begin explaining it level. Darmok and Jalad on the internet.

I know you’ve made posts about the philosophical underpinnings of the left/right divide in the past.

But when you comment ‘have you considered hobbes?’ without elaborating, well….

And I agree with you; Hobbesian ideas are probably a key to what’s going on with the border. But there tends to be a missing link when you make the comment- humans are inherently bad and all that, but the argument for how that informs recent events/provides a different perspective is one that has to be made.

I’m a classical conservative/reactionary, and not just as a euphemism for ‘racist but I call it something else’. I agree with you- humans are mostly pretty bad and need to be civilized by external influences. But the argument for how this applies in specific situations is an argument that needs to be made instead of ‘refer to post #9999999 and apply’.

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