Regime-banned books are in school libraries and on indigo bookshelves at eye level for children.
REAL banned books are often decades out of print, going for hundreds of dollars used on eBay, they've been disappeared by publishers and distributors in spite of interest and demand. Others have authors who've died or been imprisoned for their ideas, yet more have been removed from city or university-wide library systems so that their "Misinformation" and "Lies" do not poison impressionable scholars.
Yet more are suppressed algorithmically, not appearing on the author's wikipedia page and not appearing in Google search if you type the author and "book" or "memoirs"... but only appearing when you already know the full title of the work (try this yourself: Type in "Pinochet Memoirs", and then type in "Pinochet: A journey through a life")
Yet others are explicitly banned, some to the point where a mere PDF on your hard drive can result in a decade-long sentence... IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, NEW ZEALAND, and AUSTRIA.
This has been a massive project. over 200 titles on the full list and 10,000 words in my "Cursory" survey.
Let me take you on a journey into the heart of the forbidden
UPDATE: Also Checkout My Addendum to The Real Banned Book list on Holocaust Revisionist Liturature
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Your need to make things personal is noted.
For reference, I tried to track down the english translation of Pinochet's memoirs...
Not a single public library or university sytem within 1000miles of me has them... Lots of memoirs by communists about "Living under Pinochete" or "memoirs of a Bicyclist who disapeared in Pinochet's Chile" But somehow not the Memoirs of the Dictator they wring their hands about.
You rage that I'm right about major works by world leaders having been disappeared is revealing. The fact you're offended by me pointing it out and desperately need to grasp that these aren't "real banned books" when you have no problem with the barnes and noble displays of "the handmaid's tale" and "to kill a mockingbird" is doubly revealing.
You're not upset that I haven't personally tracked these down and put them on libgen, you're upset that I've surfaced them to 10s of thousands of people, and now someone with access to UTexas or UPenn library system (the only two places I could find copies) will.
hey, turn it down a couple notches. This is getting close to personal attack territory, we don't allow those here.
He made it personal first, and implied that if I didn't drive 5000 kms to one of the 5 universities (I've looked into this at great effort) that had copies without credentials of my own and then illegally digitized a book I'd have to break in to access, that I don't believe what I say. (as if that's an optimal use of limited time for illegal activity)
That's personal.
He knows damned well that what he said was an absurd personal attack and escalation. And I'm not going to play the game where I pretend to not notice I've been insulted.
I remained vastly more civil resisting the temptation to swear or level insults as he did. But I'm not going to pretend we're having an abstract 3rd person discussion of Ideas when my interlocutor has already insulted me, imputed disingenuity, and already made it personal and second person.
After mod discussion, we're bumping the original mod harrumphing into an actual warning, which seems entirely appropriate to me. If you think someone is being rude, report them. You've been here long enough to know how this works, sir.
For what it's worth, I'll second @self_made_human below; I think your hostility meter is set a bit light. I can see how you'd read it as an attack, but the solution is to keep your cool and report, not break out the flamethrower.
For what it's worth, @Eetan, you should tone it down too.
Fair...
Ya I overreacted. This discussion is coming at me from 3-4 platforms, and I attributed to @Eetan alot of my frustration from lower effort, more bad faith posters elsewhere.
Apologies for that.
Ok, my apology for being too confrontational. As you may noticed, I am not Pinochet's greatest fan.
Good luck in your hunt for Pinochet's missing books.
My explanation why are they missing from libgen is not because they are censored, but because no one bothered to upload them there.
And my prediction is, once the books are found, they will turn to be boring wooden ghostwritten propaganda, no brilliant insights or important secrets.
On libgen you can find works by George Lincoln Rockwell, Francis Parker Yockey, David Ernest Duke, William Luther Pierce, Matthew Hale, Revilo Pendleton Oliver and rest of the White Nationalist/Neo-Nazi crew. Far more controversial books than anything Pinochet might have to say.
BTW, is there any documented case of libgen censoring content and deleting uploaded books (except pictorial child porn ofc)?
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Leaving aside who made what personal, to a mildly curious but not particularly invested bystander like me, it is not at all obvious that @Eetam expected you to have to go to those lengths go find a copy. Sure, he could be a bit more polite about asking you to put your paperbacks where your mouth is, but unless he wishes to clarify otherwise, I don't see that level of hostility in response as warranted Kulak.
How do you know he doesn't have an aversion to such farcical displays? Where's the rage? He's trying to show you that a lot of the books described as banned are only not available because nobody can be arsed to track them down, not even their nominal supporters.
I really don't see a reason to say that, it seems weird that he would complain about you sharing the other books while simultaneously telling you to put them up on the best piracy site for literature. Why make that assumption?
Both of you should a take a breather, please, you're both regulars in good standing, albeit with quirks, and hopefully you can sort the rest of it out yourselves. More politely and with charity.
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