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Obsidian  10mo ago (badcyber.com)   Edited 10mo ago   1883 thread views

The latest in industrial sabotage: geofenced passenger trains that fail when repaired in competitors' yards

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Some were also rigged to fail after a certain date or beyond a certain mileage.

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That assumes the repair is logged or discovered. Perhaps shoddy black market repairs is or has been an issue in Poland?

Obviously this doesn't apply when there the maintainance contract gets transferred like here.

I want to understand more about what you're working with/where you're coming from.

See my message to you.

shoddy black market repairs

As someone born in Poland with dual citizenship and spends 3 months of the year there on average, Poles execute the finest black market repairs in the world. There is a very high level of technical education left over from the communist era with a healthy disrespect for authority, also left over from the communist era. If I was going to have anything illegally repaired, I'd do it in Poland. (until recently Ukraine would have been #2, now I think its Czechia, maybe Slovenia)

The communist era ended 34 years in the past, mind you.

In six years, eastern Europeans will have lived without communism for as long as they've lived with it.

This contract was intentionally constructed to decouple servicing overhaul and train construction, with manufacturer obligated to provide full servicing documentation.

Repairs done at repair yards of competition were NOT illicit, Newag lost bid for overhaul.

Yes?

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