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PaperclipPerfector  10mo ago (text post)   5127 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for December 24, 2023

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If you get a red modhat comment telling you not to post something, your comment is not fine.

You asked me a question. I responded with my reasoning. And my opinion is not going to change, red modhat comment or not.

That person called their coworker a midwit. Not in passing, but as a directed insult. This is rude and I don't like it.

No ruder than calling someone a "cuck", surely. Get off your high horse.

I do not personally know Tom Scott

So it's fine for you to insult a public figure by (literally or figuratively) calling him so unattractive and unmanly that his wife is fucking other men behind his back.

But if I say that a former colleague of mine is of average intelligence (without mentioning her name, nationality, the company she worked for or any identifying characteristics whatsoever), then I'm being "rude" and "hateful".

Moreover, your absurd double standard implies that it would be okay for you to call my former colleague a midwit (based on my description of her), but not for me to do so - because I know her personally?

With all due respect: get lost.

It's rude to insult anyone. And I am rude sometimes.

It's not nice of me to call Tom Scott a cuck, but I don't think of him as a real person. The only reason why I am able to insult him in the first place is because Tom Scott, the person, does not exist. I wouldn't speak like that about anyone I know, because they would be real, and even just thinking badly of them would make me feel terrible.

Insults deindividualize a person. In the case of Tom Scott, he's already deindividualized as an online entity to me. However, you can't call your coworker a midwit without knowingly engaging in deindividualization. I, on the other hand, could call her that.

Edit: I will not respond to your comment if you wish not to continue the conversation. I will, however, make a note here that I have thought and written about this topic at lenght. The labor of deindividualization significantly differs based on familiarity, on whether you know someone or not. This is what makes insults bad. And rudeness is only a partial reflection of this labor.

It's not nice of me to call Tom Scott a cuck, but I don't think of him as a real person. The only reason why I am able to insult him in the first place is because Tom Scott, the person, does not exist. I wouldn't speak like that about anyone I know, because they would be real, and even just thinking badly of them would make me feel terrible.

Some of the best (worst) mental gymnastics I've ever read.

And all this over the word "midwit" which isn't even an insult.

It's not mental gymnastics; I'm sincerely expressing why I don't mind insulting someone I don't know. And this extends beyond insults to all aspects of life. Our concern is naturally highest for those closest to us. When this isn't the case, we start caring more about rocks than our families.

The badness of an insult derives from the labour of deindividualization required in producing it. The closer someone is to us, the more challenging it should be to express negative thoughts about them. I find it horrifying how somone can casually insult their coworkers and not feel anything.

That is the most nonsensical post hoc rationalisation for bad behaviour I've ever heard in my life and I have no interest in interacting with you any further.

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