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For the record, my personal feeling is that your "you are not oppressed" comment is one of my favorite replies I've ever received here. I disagreed strongly with your position then, and continue to do so now, but that isn't the point: you grasped the fundamental nature of the argument and responded directly and concretely. Honest, thoughtful disagreement is something I treasure because it sharpens my own thinking, and that post is one of the better disagreements I've had here. I try not to bring it up, and I don't usually get involved when others bring it up because I realize you don't enjoy rehashing it, but I smile whenever I re-read the exchange. It seems to me that if your argument there was correct, then it was deeply necessary; if it was wrong, well, we each are often wrong, and the way you would be wrong is one of the better wrongs one can be.
There's a deeper discussion available, but maybe I'll get to it in a top-level comment. Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you, sir.
Merry Christmas. For what it's worth, I hope you are wrong, but I am not closed to the possibility that I am. That you hold the views you do while being fundamentally decent is one of the reasons I feel so strongly - the idea that you and I will inevitably wind up on opposite sides of a civil war is pretty horrific to me. There are other people here who like to fedpost, play Internet Tough Guy, and trot out their edgiest takes, and are really only here to inject venom into the discussion and express their hate for their outgroup, and they would be no loss to anyone, any community, or any civilization. Perhaps some of what @gattsuru objects to is my contempt for those people bleeding through in my responses elsewhere. But it is not a general contempt for "your tribe." I have friends, I know many good people (as our favorite Orange Man says), on both sides. It... bothers me, that what I hear from both sides is increasingly "How can you possibly associate with them?"
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