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Hard nope.
SecureSignals is getting modded for one issue posting, this guy is doing the exact same thing, except dishonestly. Ban for life.
Concretely, I thought the Aporia article he posted was a perfectly reasonable thing to post.
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The mods take an extreme light touch with SS, he’s still here years later and still largely single-issue posting, just not exclusively in top-level threads. And the main reason he gets modded is that he makes the same arguments in every Holocaust denial thread but when actually interrogated always disappears when Stefferi or whoever effortposts a quality rebuttal to his arguments and allusions.
This guy, by contrast, is more ‘just asking questions’ rather than making an argument. Obviously it’s still trolling in a particular direction, there’s no doubt about it, but it’s a less objectionable grift than posting propaganda and running away when a decent counterargument presents itself.
I'm not criticizing the mods, I think SS should bite the bullet and post about literally anything else, every once in a while, and if there's no other subject in the world that makes him tick as a human, he should probably take that as a cue to think about his life long and hard.
I'm criticizing you for encouraging JD, when all he's doing is being a dishonest version of SS.
I will.
Situations like this are what ultimately lead to my falling out with Zorba and Trace and they don't seem to have learned anything in the interim. We kept getting into arguments in modmail where they'd be like; You can't just assume that "u/ArgleBargle456 is ban evading because he showed up the morning after /u/ArgleBargle123 got banned." and "Yes /u/soandso is very obviously pushing an agenda and consistently bringing the quality of the conversation down but that's not a reason to take action against them" and I finally ran out of patience. If blatant ban evasion and clearly violating the foundations of the sub are not reasons to mod someone, what is even the point of moderating anyone?
Like you say, this guy's just a less honest version of SS. and as @fuckduck9000 points out, keeping him around is effectively the worst of both worlds.
There's something to be said for "beyond reasonable doubt" when it comes to banning, but posters should err on the side of not feeding trolls, even if that results in some false positives.
Maybe, but at the risk of rehashing that whole argument again, I do not think that "beyond reasonable doubt" is a remotely workable standard in a pseudonymous environment where someone can spin up a new account in less time than it takes the moderator to ban their old one.
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I suppose part of me is curious whether all our replies to JD/motteposter/other alts are going to end up on SneerClub one day, or whether it’s some other kind of troll.
Why do you think it's wrong? I mean, I agree that it is wrong, but this place isn't for saying what is, it's for exploring why what is, is. Surely you have some starting conception of why white nationalism is not benign and free association can be harmful, so start there and follow the chain of logic.
I seem to recall that you've asked questions similar to this of me directly a couple times, I gave what I thought were good replies, and you never responded. In fact, I don't recall you ever responding to people giving good rebuttals of WN ideas you've brought up, of which it seems to me there have been many. If you genuinely cannot generate good arguments against WN ideas yourself and are posting those arguments here in hopes of finding such arguments, it seems to me that at some point, you would either comment to express thanks for having such arguments provided, or conversely point out why the arguments provided aren't good enough. You don't though, do you? You only ever seem to Just Ask Questions.
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Don't be low effort? I guess you have tried but figured that white nationalism is basically correct. You're here to either explore the chance your wrong with people who are willing to put in more effort, or much more likely you're doing 4D chess because you find your own ideas on the matter compelling. You've basically been outed as bad faith, and that is the issue at hand. The other option is you're here to steelman the best arguments against your ideas so you can work away in private to dismantle them rhetorically.
I think you may have some strange meta personality such that you are the person who has the visceral hatred.
Why don't you just speak in the first person about your own ideas in a direct way?
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If you’re genuinely not trolling (likelihood: 5%) then maybe reach out to the mods privately and see if you can verify your identity semi-anonymously (prove that your IP is real and non-VPN? Something like that)
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Yeah, if you want diverse content, just allow low-effort tops. If you want honesty, let SS and co be. Tolerating this guy is the worst of all worlds. Litters the sub with low-quality fake dogpiling arguments about a subject the mods apparently don’t want to see.
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