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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 13, 2023

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Completely and totally irrelevant to my point. You just further buy into the notion that special people face special threats and deserve special treatment, which I reject in it's totality.

No, I am noting that that particular person at that particular time faced a particular threat from a particular group. If she did not show good cause for a concealed weapon permit, then no one can, so you seem to be advocating that no one should have been issued a concealed weapon permit

Are you purposely trying to bait me?

OP pointed out that virtually no one in San Francisco can get a conceal carry permit, and that it's rank hypocrisy for Feinstein to have gotten one. To further their point, asking bing how many CCP have been issued in San Francisco

San Francisco has issued only 11 concealed carry permits over the last decade. The San Francisco Sheriff’s Department is known for granting virtually no concealed carry permits, and received only two applications in 2017 and none in 2018. No permits were granted either year, and there are no active permits.

And you proceed to completely ignore the point about hypocrisy or special treatment and instead harp on how Feinstein really deserved a CCP. I keep making the point that she's no more deserving, morally, than many of victims and future victims of violent crime in San Francisco.

And you return that I'm advocating that no one should be issued a concealed weapon permit.

Sir, I say in all serious. Are you distracted and not paying full attention to the arguments you are engaging in? Are you getting a blowjob under the table right now? Is this the other window you keep open while you chain smoke and game in a cyber cafe? What is your fucking deal?

OP pointed out that virtually no one in San Francisco can get a conceal carry permit, and that it's rank hypocrisy for Feinstein to have gotten one.

No OP made a causal claim -- that she got one because she was "important" -- and I merely pointed that there seems to have been another reason.

asking bing how many CCP have been issued in San Francisco

No one doubts that it was difficult to get CCP in SF during the decade ending in 2017. But that is not the point, and besides note that Feinstein did not have a permit at that time either.

  • I keep making the point that she's no more deserving, morally, than many of victims and future victims of violent crime in San Francisco.

And I keep making the point that that claim is based on a misstatement of the facts.

You mean to imply that a random person has the same chance of getting JFKd as JFK, assuming equal security?

I'm saying a random person has just as much moral right to defend themselves from the threats they are likely to face as a "special" person from the "special" threats they are likely to face. A special person might risk assassination, a non-special person risks getting randomly (or pseudo-randomly) being violently and potentially lethally victimized in other ways. You have a moral right to defend yourself from all of them. Targeted assassination isn't the one special category you have a moral right to defend yourself from.

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