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Soriek  1yr ago (text post)   1408 thread views

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The Spanish right-wing seems to be in a continuous state of terminal rage over the fact that separatist movements even exist, and this then leads them to lose again and again to the Spanish left which, while not supporting separatism, at least is able to tactically deal with the fact that these movements exist and have some power within the Spanish electoral system.

This is certainly true at least with regards to Vox, whose existence is a reaction to the Catalonia referendum and whom most third parties have promised not to work with. Vox even promised shortly after the election that they'd support a coalition where they didn't get any ministerships in the government in a desperate attempt to get other parties to hold their nose and back the conservatives.

Aren't Catalonian separatists uber-woke lefties, much like the Scottish ones? Seems unlikely they'd ally themselves with anyone right-of-center no matter how nice they're being treated.

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