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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 19, 2022

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Poland is a very firm ally of the GAE and functionally the enforcement arm in Eastern Europe- and they’re still being referred to as undemocratic for not being onboard with the gays.

Yeah, Warsaw hoped that, being the eastern vanguard and one of the biggest spenders-helpers on Ukraine they would receive something in exchange from Bruxelles-Washington

Nothing happened, and Bruxelles continued to go on

Gays are more important than NATO.

EU's (formal) line has always been that it's problem is the rule of law in Poland, such as the Polish government's court-packing plan. The gays and abortion stuff might be culture-war grist for the media mills, but it has never directly been the main onus of EU's viewpoint against Poland.

As such, if EU decided to now do a volte-face explicitly due to Polish militancy against Russia, it would just make EU's entire position hollow and destabilize the Union; "no, we don't care about that rule-of-the-law stuff after all, we explicitly just care about how zealous we are about the other things" (and, indeed, the Polish position regarding Russia is probably not all that aligned with EU's general line but is rather far more militant and aggressive than what Germany and France, for instance, are ready to countenance.)

Are they? I had the sense that since Ukraine started, all the focus (at least in the German press) on their internal politics evaporated, and generally Hungary (whose ruler is flirting with Russia or at least trying to dangle the spectre of it for concessions) is being singled out now. Of course this could be simply a stroke of opportunity, as Poland may have stopped playing tag team with Hungary and deadlocking the "all-versus-one" punishment mechanisms in the EU - perhaps as punishment for the Russia-flirting, demonstrating conversely that at least for Poland, NATO is more important than not-Gays.

Thing is, the "Bruxelles-Washington" can afford both the NATO and the gays in Poland, they aren’t really forced to choose

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