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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   30318 thread views

Israel-Gaza Megathread #2

This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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If killing ~1200 people is a genocide, what is Israel doing to the Palestinians now?

Eliminating a military threat.

Why are women and children considered military threats to the Israeli governments?

They aren't. Hamas is a military threat.

If you have any suggestions for Israel as to how to successfully destroy Hamas without hurting any women and children, I'm sure they would be thrilled to hear them.

One weird trick. The Messiah conquered the whole world with a simple suggestion: love thy enemies.

How to get rid of Hamas:

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Cool. Let me know how you go converting Gaza.

Tutorial is called 'Acts' but you need to figure out the rest as well and make it your own before you can hope to spread the Word.

The same reason why a tank's armor is a part of it.

Would festival-goers in Israel be part of the IDF's "tank armor" by that definition?

Were Israeli fighters using the festival as cover? In any case, it wouldn't be justifiable to rape and pillage the civilians there.

Well the whole government of Israel uses Israeli civilians as their excuse to genocide the Palestinian people yes.

Hamas targeted Israeli civilians this is why we are retaliating against Palestinian civilians

Who knows how many IDF veterans were at that festival as well.

Well the whole government of Israel uses Israeli civilians as their excuse to genocide the Palestinian people yes.

Who knows how many IDF veterans were at that festival as well.

Too much heat, not enough light (or effort).

Looking upthread, I see that this is at the bottom of a chain of low-effort single-sentence back-and-forth--which you started, but which @AshLael and @sun should have known better than to feed. This thread is a good example of why we frown at short posts, even though many short posts are good and probably in some cases we should encourage shorter posts.

Oh it's heat to question the narrative that a government can just willy-nilly blockage, starve, bomb thousands of civilians because they're fighting 'terrorism'? Do you have one (1) example of modding on this subject in the past 2 weeks that is targeting the pro-Palestinian-genocide side of theMotte?

I have seen plenty of people calling the Palestinian population as a whole animals or variation thereof, calling for their eradication including women and children or downplaying civilian casualties as business as usual.

Is that not considered heat or boo-outgroup or was it just wrapped in enough sentences that this kind of take is novel and interesting enough?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Would seem to fit for Hamas attacking civilians. As far I know every Israel has done has been within Geneva convention allowed war acts. And they go much farther like giving warnings before bombing. Them the laws.

A genocide with a warning is no longer a genocide? I guess that's what these Palestinians get for living next to evil terrorists uh.

There's a difference between "deliberately targeting civilians" and "collateral damage in urban combat".

How would you feel if some government labelled your family "collateral damage in urban combat" after trapping them in their neighborhood, cutting power and water and bombing their housing? Would you be upset or would you consider it fair according to the Geneva rules of war?

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