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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
When Palestinians use force, that’s “turmoil”. The Israelis, though, aren’t going hard enough, and will surely set the region in “order” if they just stop hiding their power level. But God forbid the U.S. take an interest! That’d just be unreasonable!
The obvious answer to coordinated, state force is a larger, more coordinated one. Humans will go to great lengths to ensure that they’re on the winning side, up to and including making alliances. Bargaining. Silly things like promising to respect each others’ rights. Moldbug is asserting—from his position behind the biggest, most coordinated force of them all—that this time will be different. That this edifice is not a triumph of force, but a fluke which will surely crumble in the face of real men with a real taste for violence. Never mind who those men are, or whether they are any closer to his values than the degenerate elite he despises. Perhaps he forgets who it was that popularized the phrase:
“Political power springs from the barrel of a gun.”
Really? Everything I’ve ever read by him, at least since moving to gray mirror, has absolutely dripped with spite. At his most charitable, he manages to affect a fascinated curiosity at these primitive savages living in nerd world. If he’s not calling for their replacement, it’s only because he asserts that they will find his “trad” ways eventually.
He doesn’t like nerds but he’s far more sympathetic to the Washington and Wall Street elite than most other DR types and believes they can be convinced against the current system/cathedral.
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When Palestinians use force, that’s “turmoil”. The Israelis, though, aren’t going hard enough, and will surely set the region in “order” if they just stop hiding their power level. But God forbid the U.S. take an interest! That’d just be unreasonable!
The obvious answer to coordinated, state force is a larger, more coordinated one. Humans will go to great lengths to ensure that they’re on the winning side, up to and including making alliances. Bargaining. Silly things like promising to respect each others’ rights. Moldbug is asserting—from his position behind the biggest, most coordinated force of them all—that this time will be different. That this edifice is not a triumph of force, but a fluke which will surely crumble in the face of real men with a real taste for violence. Never mind who those men are, or whether they are any closer to his values than the degenerate elite he despises. Perhaps he forgets who it was that popularized the phrase:
“Political power springs from the barrel of a gun.”
Moldbug doesn’t despise the elite or even desire to replace them, he just thinks they need to be ideologically converted.
Really? Everything I’ve ever read by him, at least since moving to gray mirror, has absolutely dripped with spite. At his most charitable, he manages to affect a fascinated curiosity at these primitive savages living in nerd world. If he’s not calling for their replacement, it’s only because he asserts that they will find his “trad” ways eventually.
He doesn’t like nerds but he’s far more sympathetic to the Washington and Wall Street elite than most other DR types and believes they can be convinced against the current system/cathedral.
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