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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 16, 2023

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Were the people on the opposite side of this debate? The woke left? Were the woke left the ones beating black protesters here

You're asking if the people who wanted segregation back then are different from the same as people who want segregation now? Why would an affirmative answer be in any way surprising?

He thinks they are the same

You ask me who were the people on the opposite side of the CRA debate, and my reply is the same people who are supporting segregation today, namely college-educated white democrats. The specific terminology they use to justify their beliefs might change, but the substance of those beliefs (racial segregation, mob justice, and various flavors of Marxist nonsense) hasn't.

Sorry, I switcharood the negations in my brain somewhere along the line of writing that sentence. Yes, it seems to make sense to me that people who want segregation now will have the same ideology as the people who wanted segregation back then.

So the "woke" left today full of non-white people has the same ideology as the people running the Jim Crow South?

I'm pretty sure the generations don't overlap to that extent, so in the strictest sense: no. On the other hand, how am I supposed to tell the difference between people who want separate facilities for people of color, and people who want separate facilities for people of color?

It's pretty disingenuous to compare what modern progressives are doing (which I hate btw) to previous racial policies in the South.

I disagree.

I do not find the similarities to be coincidental nor inconsequential. To me it seems reasonably obvious that the sort of person who would have identified as a "Social Democrat" or "National Socialist" back in the day would be the sort who identifies as "woke" or "progressive" today.

I think it's pretty disingenuous to act like the similarities are coincidental and inconsequential, but that's not much of discussion, that's just tossing insults at each other.

They are doing a giga DR3 and implying the American Right and Red Tribe were apparently never racist. I'm just trying to get them to admit that's what they are doing.