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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   29416 thread views

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A more traditional interpretation of the faith would be the apostles and the saints. You don’t really get to have preferences for friends and family though it’s very human. The mission is to care for all the same and bring all into the faith. It’s one reason why Priest don’t have family’s so they don’t have biases versus caring for the whole community. Now not all are called to be Priest and Saints and you probably do have some special caring for family.

But using Jews specifically as an example Catholicism is not an ethnic community. We aren’t a chosen people. It gets a little dangerous to look at how Jews a religion by birth and apply their way of doing things to a universal church. Jews are in someways a blood cult. Catholics are not.

You've completely lost me here. I think Catholics should learn latin and should consider their faith a central part of their life and their family's life.

Anything else you're reading here you're misunderstanding.

And I’m saying that’s not the message of Catholicism or Christianity. Other than consider faith a central part of their life. That’s emphasizing tradition and well not the core messages of Christianity.

An emphasis on Latin especially. While that’s can be a fun tradition and a part it’s also exclusionary and Catholicism is a universal church for all which implies most would need their mother tongue. It’s the message that matters not the language.

Are you trying to tell me that Catholics do not have an emphasis on tradition? And that an interest or respect for tradition is somehow anti-Catholic?

Could you expand on that?

The faith is the gospel and the sacraments.

Traditions are a cultural aspect of it but not the core.

The faith is the gospel and the sacraments.

Traditions are a cultural aspect of it but not the core.

The Orthodox Jews would also say that Jewishness is about following the law, but the secular Jews disagree and keep proudly calling themselves Jewish while munching on pork and never visiting a synagogue.

I think that’s what I’m getting at. He wants the civilization that grew up around the church but doesn’t mention the actual church.

I think that’s what I’m getting at. He wants the civilization that grew up around the church but doesn’t mention the actual church.

This ship sailed long ago, civilization that "grew up around the church", civilization based on feudalism, "noble blood" and "divine right" is as dead as Egypt of Pharaohs. Love it or hate it, but it is not coming back.

Do you mean tradition or Tradition? Actual meaningful difference for this context.

I don't know what you mean by this question.

In the Catholic context there is Tradition and then there is tradition.

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