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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 18, 2023

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Oh absolutely, this place has become an echo chamber every bit as bad as /r/politics or whatever leftist hangout you care to name, and this subthread has been especially bad. There's just no interest in the actual reality - each event simply serves as a jumping off point to go back to the same old grievances and resentments.

I accept it for what it is and farm the downvotes - I've seen what gets upvoted and want no part of it. If you actually want substantive discussion though? Yeah, you're going to have to look elsewhere.

So why are you here then?

Because when I see another uninteresting post about how 'democrats are bad and our entire political system always makes them win and republicans lose because democrats are bad' post I just scroll past it and read the rest of the very interesting discussion on other topics, many of which aren't directly political at all.

There are lots of posts I dislike for a variety of reasons (including your OP, which IMO commits the 'vaguely gesturing at lots of bad social things and then claiming your pet cause is the reason for them fallacy', although that's something the right-wingers do a lot more. "The only winners in today's sexual culture are the small percentage of men who can have dozens of sex partners while an increasing number of men have none at all." Most men, hot or not, tall or not, have sex and relationships and are between fine and happy with it.), and I either read or skip them and move on.

Because I am attracted to unhealthy arguments rather than productive discussions. It's a vice, but at least it's cheap.

Are there any other places with 'productive discussions' about general topics you know of? This place still has the best quality I know of, outside of the mentioned right-wing circlejerks. The ACX open threads kind of suck, DSL is fine but isn't my taste.

(edit: didn't see the other comment below, but I'm curious if there's anything beyond those and theschism)

Yeah, you're going to have to look elsewhere.

And where would that be?

Honestly, the schism is (despite low traffic) still a pretty good home of high quality, good faith, non-hostile discussion.

Precisely for that reason it doesn't really appeal to my sick lizard brain that wants to tell people they are wrong on the internet. But if you have healthier compulsions than me, it could be the right place for you!

Theschism seems good, I had a vague sense it was totally dead and didn't check it, but it's much much less active than here, has many of the same people and topics, and the discussion isn't really better than the higher-quality fraction of discussion here.

The Schism is a fine place, true, but it's on reddit. I was honestly glad to be rid of reddit.

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