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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 18, 2023

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CICO is the current bog standard advice. The results over the general population are miserable. I also want to know, do you even believe it works?

The physical laws are pretty solid here. The messaging may not work, but none of the messaging works.

What's the evidence that you can lose weight with CICO and not experience hunger or lethargy?

You can't. You can't lose weight at all and not experience hunger or lethargy, except perhaps with amphetamines or some other drug. The subtitle of one of the CICO books is "How to lose weight and hair through stress and poor nutrition", and while it's obviously intended to be humorous, it's largely true.

My 1 page infographic will contain just two things: an 800 number that helps people find an Ozempic clinic and instructions for how to use e-Cigarettes. I guarantee success on all metrics.

There is some messaging that will work.

More seriously, people prior to the recent epoch didn't have to struggle to maintain a healthy weight. They just did it naturally. With keto diets, many people lose weight and maintain weight without hunger. In low fat diets, this doesn't generally happen. So there is some value in what you eat, beyond just CICO. I'm not sure that a keto-based infographic would work, but I know that a CICO-based infographic wouldn't.

More seriously, people prior to the recent epoch didn't have to struggle to maintain a healthy weight. They just did it naturally.

Sure. Because food was expensive, and/or lead exposure and cigarettes. The latter two help with hunger, the former... eh, you just live with some slight hunger most of the time.

People in the 1970s in the US didn't struggle to afford food. Neither do modern day people in Japan.

The 70s were the heydey of nicotine and lead. And food was indeed relatively more expensive.

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