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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 11, 2023

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It's not gaslighting if it's true.

How can it simultaneously be true that woke messaging is not a big deal, and that people should not be allowed any option to remove it?

But I have yet to meet anyone who thinks Peppa Pig is LGBT propaganda and can't comprehend the criticism levied against their modding choices who doesn't also think "wokeness" in video games is a problem, period.

I'm having trouble parsing this sentence. You're saying that if he had his way, he'd just turn the tables on the woke, and censor them, including their mods? If not, I'm not sure I see where you're going with this argument.

How can it simultaneously be true that woke messaging is not a big deal, and that people should not be allowed any option to remove it?

I didn't defend the latter, I defended the former.

I'm having trouble parsing this sentence. You're saying that if he had his way, he'd just turn the tables on the woke, and censor them, including their mods? If not, I'm not sure I see where you're going with this argument.

I'm saying I think he'd censor almost anything he could. He might be less tempted in cases where it's up to adults to make a decision, but I'm not confident of that. So when you say

Your argument would make sense if he complained about ANY game EVER catering to the pronouns crowd

I think he genuinely would complain about pronouns and whatnot. But he may just not be playing Starfield, so he hadn't heard of that case.

I didn't defend the latter, I defended the former.

I'm not saying you defended the latter, I just don't understand how you can defend the claim that an expression of a certain view in media is "no big deal" in a context where the removal of this view is itself censored. You might not support the censorship, but it's still there.

I'm saying I think he'd censor almost anything he could. He might be less tempted in cases where it's up to adults to make a decision, but I'm not confident of that.

Well, if you're right about him, then I can see where you're coming from.

I'm not saying you defended the latter, I just don't understand how you can defend the claim that an expression of a certain view in media is "no big deal" in a context where the removal of this view is itself censored.

They're two separate claims, that's why. The inclusion and subsequent exclusion of that view do not concern me in the least. At least in the context of single-player video games. The more zero-sum a thing we're talking about, the more I'd be concerned about it.

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