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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 11, 2023

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You got a lot more wrong about my opinion in this reply than the other.

  • I'm not against indoctrination.

  • The law does not prevent it. In fact it is either impossible to do so, or would result in a nonfunctional society.

  • I'm completely fine with the majority of parents in a community deciding what values are taught and what is prevented from being taught.

FC beat me to the punch, and I agree with everything he said, so feel free to check his comment for justifications.

Then see my previous response re having to agree to disagree.

Disagreement is all fine and well, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't portray your proposal as some conciliatory bipartisan idea, that we all should agree to. It's radical and hostile.

Well, if you see "we have to agree to disagree" as a statement that "we all should agree to" I don't know what to say. And I have not portrayed my proposal as conciliatory at all: It is the best interests of those on either side who find themselves in the minority in a particular school, but that is no more "conciliatory" than is the ban on chemical weapons. And I do not understand what is "radical and hostile" about a proposal to stop schools from silencing political views with which it disagrees.

Well, if you see "we have to agree to disagree" as a statement that "we all should agree to" I don't know what to say.

I don't. I was, of course, referring to the original comment that started this conversation.

And I have not portrayed my proposal as conciliatory at all (...) but that is no more "conciliatory" than is the ban on chemical weapons.

It might depend on the situation, but I think a ban on chemical weapons can also accurately be described as "conciliatory".

It is the best interests of those on either side who find themselves in the minority in a particular school

You seemed to have been arguing that it would benefit society in general. Also, whether or not this would benefit minorities that disagree with the ideology of the people in the education bureaucracy is still an open question.

And I do not understand what is "radical and hostile" about a proposal to stop schools from silencing political views with which it disagrees.

You were given response upon a response explaining it. I thought you disagreed with the explanation, not that you still didn't understand it. Which part of the argument are you having issues with?

  • I thought you disagreed with the explanation, not that you still didn't understand it. Which part of the argument are you having issues with?

Again, I do not understand what is "radical and hostile" about a proposal to stop schools from silencing political views with which it disagrees.

I already laid out the arguments. What's so hard to understand about "in effect this will simply move the power to silence completely away from parents and completely towards education bureaucrats"?

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