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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 21, 2023

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This just made me realize I generally trust Internet commentors on themotte more than just about any mainstream newspaper.

Probably a good heuristic, sadly. Even if it is filtered from mainstream sources, as @curious_straight_ca says, people here at least have pretty solid Bayesian filters compared to the general public.

Where else are we going to get info? There's simply far too much out there to sort though, and the only way to manage the huge sorting problem is networking with other intelligent people and hoping that a collective effort can give a better sense of true information than an individual effort.

I'm genuinely curious how others think we are supposed to get good info - do we just spend hours and hours every day sifting through the news?

My heirarchy of news trustworthiness:

Top Tier: Happened to me or someone I know that I can ask about it.

2nd Tier: A trusted public personality that does their research has commented on the thing. Scott Alexander, Zvi Mowschowitz, Glenn Greenwald. I was gonna say "etc" but no other names came to mind.

3rd Tier: Well regarded comments from communities I trust. The commenters on themotte, or scott's blog, or zvi's blog all fall in this category. Well regarded blog personalities or podcasters, who post interesting stuff, but aren't necessarily doing the verification work, like Bryan Caplan, Tyler Cowen, etc.

4th tier: The rest of the world. Yes, I put the NYT on the same level as some random 4chan troll. I don't know their motivations, I don't know their standards, I don't know what they trying to sell, etc etc. I don't discount the possibility that other people may find these sources far more trustworthy. Some people like Scott and Zvi specifically use these sources. But I don't know how to read these sources to tease out truthful information. So they are still useless to me without an investment on my part into understanding these sources. And that is an investment I feel no interest in taking, because I've already got sources that work for me. If they stop working for me then things will get shuffled around the tier list, as they have been before.