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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 24, 2023

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Depends on exactly what you mean by this. I can be flexible on physical body (though I don't like it much) but anything that is mentally inhuman by my estimation is a competitor and has to die. I'm invested in the survival of humanity and human culture and (in so far as I have any power to do so) won't tolerate anything that seriously threatens it. Which means, of course, that you can't tolerate me. Thus, conflict.

Eh, at least I can claim that I didn't start the aggression. But if you do want baseline humans to remain in charge, force and violence you will need, and I wouldn't bet too highly given the odds.

In general my experience is the opposite. Advanced technology usually requires more specialist tools and facilities, and offers increased opportunities for walled gardens / DRM / software-locked hardware etc. Look at old vs new cars - the new ones are impossible to repair yourself. Not a global rule, just my experience + intuition.

Sure, but it's not a given. The EU is forcing even Apple to open up the walled garden, and right to repair is spreading.

Worst case, you have your human limbs, and advanced biotech will keep arthritis at bay.

I don't think humans will even need to work except as a hobby, so why would I care if the Samsung S-Limb Note 7 Explode Edition has additional proprietary features when I can get one 80% as good without the vendor lock-in?

I can't speak for Altman but I would 100% let you die :P As I am letting a number of people die this very second by not investing in cheap mosquito nets. I have no particular investment in you and no particular desire to have you around for ever and ever. Sorry, it seems weird to say to a stranger on the internet but I think you're being much too optimistic about this.

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No worries, I don't really intend to rely on the charity of strangers. Nor am I an effective altruist, or even very charitable myself. I don't give money to charity, and I don't treat people I don't like for free.

To the extent that you're as powerless as me, why get worked up about it?

I think you're projecting. (So am I, of course.) Power and status are limited by their nature. I get where you're coming from better now, for what it's worth. But I think you've seriously failed to consider the possibility that other people have very different philosophies and desires from you and those are guaranteed to lead to conflict even if it were possible to have true abundance of all material resources.

Will the future not have conflict? Almost certainly not, unless we end up under the silken chains of some kind of AI Hegemon. I simply don't think it's likely to be worse than what we experience today, and will largely be peaceful and prosperous after teething pains.

At any rate, like you, I'm going to have to wait and see for myself.

At any rate, like you, I'm going to have to wait and see for myself.

Oh, of course. I'm personally invested in making sure we avoid civilisational Bad Ends as much as possible, so to that extent I oppose undirected tech optimism. But as you say, we only have so much choice in the end. Thanks for the discussion.