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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 17, 2023

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Just to clarify, these kinds of posts are fine in the culture war thread. We have not created any explicit rule against these types of posts, and we have never enforced anything against them.

A minor history lesson:

The original culture war threads were just discussion threads where culture war topics were allowed rather than completely banned.

A bunch of rules have arisen over time to handle how culture war topics are handled and presented, but at no point were non-culture war topics banned, it's just that they defacto did not show up in the culture war threads because those topics were allowed to happen elsewhere in the community.

Basically the culture war thread was set up as fence to keep culture war topics in rather than to keep other topics out.