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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 17, 2023

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So you agree that the upper class does benefit from the lower classes, it's just that they might benefit more from replacing the existing lower classes with new ones?

Of course, society is a positive sum game, I never disputed that, I said that the lower classes at the moment are capturing more of the economic surplus society generates than they are due if you just look at supply demand etc. If they were being "exploited" they would be capturing less of it.

In order to have a functional modern society in this scenario, so many of the upper classes would have to start doing lower class type jobs that the overall ability of the upper classes to innovate would decrease by a lot.

All true. And even now the upper classes pay for not having to do these jobs, and they pay more than the global market determined fair value for these jobs because of immigration controls which shield the lower classes from competition while upper class jobs have to deal with competition at a global level. In a fair world they would be paying less for these jobs, hence the lower class western people who're getting the jobs at the moment are overpaid and yet they have the gall to complain!