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In my experience, people often act exactly like these.
Well, yes, but that's Jiro's point.
You also missed the point about making the challenge being a way to "win" right now while the loss (even if the loser doesn't weasel out of it) ends up in the future when no one cares any more.
I'm not most people. If you don't think I will keep my word, then simply don't bet at all. You don't see me offering this bet on 4chan, nor would I offer it to a throwaway account. If you're a regular here with even a minimal amount to lose, I can at least debate the odds and stakes.
I read that point and disagree with it. It signals that both people have strong conviction and confidence in their beliefs, and I fail to see how that makes either of them losers. I would respect someone with the confidence to stake anything at all beyond words more, and so would many other rats or rat-adjacents, regardless of whether they win or not. I certainly lose a great deal of respect for people who bow out before they even get to that point, no matter what excuses they raise to justify it.
Presuming the Motte still exists when said bet resolves, he would have my permission to point and laugh if I reneged on the deal, as long as he returned the favor.
No, I am not sufficiently confident that you will keep your word.
Of course, politeness norms normally preclude saying that, but you are taking advantage of politeness norms when you use my failure to say that as reason why I shouldn't mind betting. So I have to say it.
Like I said, it's your call. You're evidently willing to pay the small price of losing a portion of my respect, not that I expect you to lose sleep over it.
I certainly am not so full of myself that I can't accept that someone might not want to take up a bet with a pseudonymous stranger, my issue is only that you claimed to have a general aversion to betting at all, and didn't bother to caveat it with even (excessive) qualifiers like offering bets to people you'd lend money. If that counts as "talking advantage of politeness norms" to you, I clearly disagree.
For what it's worth, a person here here has already offered me substantial sums with absolutely no strings attached, and I haven't taken it up because my condition isn't so dire that I can't do without it. No, I'm not going to post proof, unless said person sees this and approves disclosure. I'm happy that someone values me enough to make the same offer.
Because most people don't routinely add nitpicky qualifiers to statements like that.
If I tell you that I don't eat brussels sprouts, I may in fact eat brussels sprouts if I was offered $500 to do so, or if there was a gun at my head. The fact that I left that out isn't "didn't bother to caveat it", that's talking normally.
Besides, I did say:
in a different post. Pointing out that I didn't say it in the exact post you're referring to is an even worse nitpick.
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