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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 26, 2023

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No, the conversation would go smoother if you actually stated your beliefs. I asked about five times why you want a special rule for LGBTQ people, and not until now have you said you want the rule to apply to everyone. Instead, you employed evasions such as asking why I don't have objections to limits on religious views being taught.

Again, the actual quote was "Why should there be a special rule re influencing the perception of children towards the LGBT movement?", the answer to that is that there's a certain type of beliefs that should not be taught in schools, like for example religion, hence my response "For the same reason there's a special rule re 'influencing the perception of children towards Jesus Christ being our lord and savior'". You could have asked me at any point what those reasons are, but instead you chose to argue about how that's different because that rule is in the Constitution, as if that answers the question.

And, btw, the issue is not whether people should be "be allowed to have their ideology taught as fact." It is whether they can be allowed to advocate for certain things being taught.

That's false. The issue people are having with trans stuff is that it is being taught as fact right now, not that people are advocating for it.

But, of course, you know that, because you said in your very last post: "They should not be allowed to advocate for what should be taught any more than Christians or Muslims are." (emphasis added). Now, once again, when asked to defend that view, you try to change the subject to whether people should be allowed to "have their ideology taught as fact / the right way to do things."

You're splitting hairs. Sure, I guess Muslims, Christians, Jews, Nazis, Communists, free market advocates, people who want to teach hostility to homosexuality, and Queer Theory believers, should be allowed to advocate for their views to be taught as fact- in the sense they should not be arrested for marching in the streets and petitioning the government to do so, but I also believe that the answer should always be "no". That kind of hollows out the whole "advocacy" bit for me, which is why I boiled it down to "shouldn't be allowed to advocate for", but again, maybe you see some substance in the distinction, in which case, I am again happy for you.

Anyhow, it is obvious that you just like to argue for the sake of arguing.

I doubt you come off as actually trying to get to the truth of things either.

Have a nice day.

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