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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 12, 2023

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The US white homicide rate is still much higher than the euro average.

Proximity of higher crime demographics makes crime to increase also in lower crime demographics.

Only for certain subpopulations. Others, for example New England whites, are comparable to Europeans in this regard.

No, even New Englanders don’t have better W. Euro level crime rates when you correctly adjust for demographics in both places in the comparison. What people do is compare, say, Vermont to all of France or England, which is disingenuous.

...lack of access to weapons

The combination of demographics and access to weapons seem to combine to drive murder rates, in my view. As I mentioned in another post, the murder rate among whites in Minnesota and Wisconsin is incredibly low, almost non-existent, and yet there are tons of weapons in the rural areas. The people are just not really the shooty types so much. As @rudig points out, Oslo has some populations that are fairly violent; I would guess that their capacity for large numbers of murder is moderated by their access to firearms. Where the two intersect, Milwaukee and Minneapolis have high murder rates among their black populations - violent subcultures, predicted by demographics, combined with easy access to firearms gives predictably bad outcomes.

Minnesota features Minneapolis, a large city of 430k or so which is about 18% black. Norway has Oslo, a larger city but one without such a population.

Oslos immigrant population is 33%, granted some of the biggest immigrant groups are western European. But if you add up non-euro immigrants (the biggest of which is pakistani and somali) the number is still over 20%.

Why are you talking about immigrants?

Sorry, didnt specify, but immigrant in Norwegian statistic is someone who immigrated themselves or have 2 parents who have immigrated. Norway does not really have a big non-white population outside of this group

And even the rates of stuff like homicide via feet and fists, if I recall correctly, stuff that can't be chalked up to differences in available weapons.

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