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What US data is that? Because I have largely seen the opposite. And see here.
The internet racists will say:
Crime by American blacks is very high
Crime by hispanic immigrants, particularly illegal ones, is higher than native whites but might be lower than native blacks
Similarly, expect high crime by hispanic natives (but less than blacks)
Crime by legal immigrants will be lower. Very few Salesforce Integration Engineers on an H1B visa or Abuelas brought to the US on a family reunification visa do crimes.
Crime by immigrant Somalians will probably also be high.
Crime by native whites is low
Crime by white immigrants, such as British or Danes, will also be low
Crime by immigrant Indians and Chinese will be very low
Do you disagree with these claims?
Neither of your sources has much to say about them. Your sources claim that the average of immigrant Hispanics and Chinese is lower than the average of native whites and native blacks.
It's odd that they didn't disaggregate the crimes of natives in such an obvious way, or break down immigrant crime by country of origin. Why do you think they didn't?
It looks low in comparison to the AA rate, but the US white-offender homicide rate is still higher than most developed European countries' total rate (and many of the poorer ones as well). Even if you assume that none of the "unknown" in the first link below are white, it's still 2.1 per 100,000. If you use the distribution of victims as an estimate (2nd link) since most murders are same-race, you get 2.5; if we assume the unknowns are distributed the same as the knowns (41% white), then we get just under 3. Countries such as Austria, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, France, the UK, Switzerland, and the Netherlands are all below 2, as well as Poland, Spain, Albania, and Croatia, among others.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Vital_statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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Please refrain from telling others what they believe. This sort of thing adds only heat, no light. Don't post like this.
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From my first comment:
What more would you like?
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https://cis.org/Report/Misuse-Texas-Data-Understates-Illegal-Immigrant-Criminality
Illegal immigrants are often not identified as such by most state prison systems. Also any claims that illegals are less criminal than natives doesn't pass the most basic of smell tests: illegals skew younger and more male (which universally correlates with higher crime rates) and the very nature of their status as illegal immigrants makes certain crimes like identity theft (to secure housing/employment/etc.) much more common.
In situations where we do have more accurate data on the immigration status of convicts (such as federal prison system) the data suggests that the internet racists are, in fact, right. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/departments-justice-and-homeland-security-release-data-incarcerated-aliens-94-percent-all
...That by definition the group is comprised of 100% criminals?
Don't ever concede that point if you don't need to.
But the old advice of "only commit one crime at a time" applies here too, presumably; if you're in a country illegally, it is in your interest to not do anything that could cause the police to pay attention to you and discover you entered illegally.
Like buy forged documents and evade taxes?
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Your second link, re federal data, is not particularly convincing, in part because federal criminals are a very small pct of all criminals, but also because federal inmates are those who committed federal offenses, many of which, such as drug smuggling 44 percent of the total, are often international offenses, so of course non-citizens are going to be overrepresented. It is also unclear whether many of the people referenced in the report are in custody for immigration-related offenses or because they are in removal proceedings.
Right, the article re Texas mentions that TX is one of the few states that has good data, which is why they look at Texas
As for the CIS report, if you look at the database they include, homicide rates are a bit higher for illegal immigrants (assuming that the denominator for the illegal immigrant pop is correct), and sex assault rates are higher, but rates for assault and robbery are lower. It sure looks like overall violent crime is lower, or maybe about the same.
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