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Well, you've given me the impulse to make it happen. I bought an expensive GPU for AI and I suppose I should get my money's worth.
I like how sometimes SD just throws up a real gem of its own accord without any manipulation but spontaneity isn't cutting it.
If you want very specific and controllable results, by all means use controlnet. You can inherit silhouettes and poses from reference images, such as a humanoid silhouette that you can make into a robot without the issue of pauldrons.
That, or deleting the offending section and inpainting over and over again till it's fixed.
While SD isn't the most advanced model by itself, it's the extensions that let it put up a fight against Midjourney and the like!
Got it working now. It's fascinating how much the open source community can do, yet the heavyweights can just overwhelm it with computational firepower. Google's high-parameter models could produce readable text on demand in photorealistic images before Stable Diffusion even existed.
https://twitter.com/JeffDean/status/1539743557476663300
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We're also seeing advanced tooling start to come out.
Personally, there's so much else to work on that I'm waiting on Drag your GAN models to seriously get into the art side of things. (Those should be able to let you edit away those pesky pauldrons with ease)
Drag your GAN really is going viral. I saw it on Kruel's newsletter first, then 4chan (and not even /g/), now here. All in a single day. Guess that's the speed of progress these days.
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