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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 13, 2023

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I think you're playing dumb and are putting forth spurious arguments to passive-aggressively poke the bear here.

These are all, like it or not, probably the median opinion among 20-something year old liberals. There's definitely a tension in modern society where prime biological fertility corresponds to the most financially vulnerable and lowest-earning part of a typical career. Its also well known that young healthy people are overcharged for health care in order to prop up the insurance market.

Yeah, even if it's just someone trolling, it's still interesting to respond seriously to the arguments, they're pretty similar to what left-leaning people actually believe

Purely economically speaking, points #1 and #3 are common. But if you read past that, each of the points has an element of "conservativism is the root cause of low fertility", which seems to me like a frustrated parody of "feminism is the root cause of low fertility", something people do unironically believe. I think point #5 in particular stands out as something even the most progressive of progressive would not blame on low fertility rates. "The problem is, religious bigotry such as my parents subjected me to is supressing birth rates" is an argument that is both bizarre on the surface, and one I have never heard anyone make. Even very very anti-religious people will concede social conservatism tends to pump out the babies.

"The problem is, religious bigotry such as my parents subjected me to is supressing birth rates" is an argument that is both bizarre on the surface, and one I have never heard anyone make. Even very very anti-religious people will concede social conservatism tends to pump out the babies.

You're thinking too meta. Having a bad relationship with your parents almost certainly makes you less enthusiastic about becoming a parent yourself.

Hm... I think you're being a bit of a quokka here, but let's wait and see. She just concluded a fairly heated debate with @f3zinker in the previous thread and I get the impression she's kinda done with us. Would love to be wrong though.

Im smelling the same thing you are smelling.

No, I am not done with ya'll. I just don't know what you mean by "wait and see".

No, I am not done with ya'll. I just don't know what you mean by "wait and see".

There's a bit of a pattern among left-leaning users who depart here that, before they leave in a huff, they'll start posting provocative inflammatory things that parody the tone and style of the people they're fighting with. @PmMeClassicMemes is a recent example, but unfortunately they deleted their profile so I can't show you.

"Wait and see" means that, if I see you continuing to debate in good faith, I'll know I was wrong and your blaming social conservatives for low fertility rates was a sincere belief rather than a dig at redpillers who blame feminists.

Well, if I "left" I would just go back to lurking, and if I left in a huff I would be very silly to as I have been here long enough to know what the response to my beliefs will be and if I was not prepared for them I should not have made an account. I am quite sincere, but I understand your reasoning. I do, however, struggle to respond if people do not directly reply and can miss their responses, am not in the mood to respond to some posters, and sometimes forget if I look at a response on my phone and I'm interrupted.