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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 6, 2023

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This claim (hypothetical male rapist becomes trans, is transferred to women's prison without care or thought, then commences raping other defenseless women inmates who are all smaller and weaker than her) suggests a whole host of hypothetical realities without evidence, and then you go on to suggest something vague about trans people in general.

An uncharitable reading of your post is that rapists being put in with any prison population is worse than trans people being put in with their corresponding prison population. That's a wild claim and not at all reasonable. Trans people won't become trans to switch prisons.

I am actually curious though-- is there any evidence for your line of thinking? How many trans rapists are there? I've heard of one case, and I haven't heard any of the details (like it's super important to our discussion to know if the rapist continued raping people or if they became a model inmate). One case (or even a hundred) doesn't rise to the level of being able to generalize about trans people.

I also would like to know more about how inmates in various contexts perceive the option of becoming trans. Is it really as simple as wearing a wig?

Also, should we be incarcerating criminals based on their powerlifting totals (sum of bench press, squat, deadlift maximums) or based on reasoned analyses of their expected behavior? People raping each other in prisons is a solvable problem, and if any inmate thinks becoming trans confers an advantage, that's a solvable problem as well.

At best the rapist argument brings up a logistical issue for prison operators.

This claim (hypothetical male rapist becomes trans, is transferred to women's prison without care or thought, then commences raping other defenseless women inmates who are all smaller and weaker than her) suggests a whole host of hypothetical realities without evidence

Ah yes, very hypothetical. It has literally never happened.

and then you go on to suggest something vague about trans people in general.

Please substantiate your claim that I have suggested anything about trans people in general.

Trans people won't become trans to switch prisons.

What would you accept as evidence for this? It's not like I can see into the mind of the prisoners.

I also would like to know more about how inmates in various contexts perceive the option of becoming trans. Is it really as simple as wearing a wig?

Gender Self-ID laws are currently making their way through Europe. In fact, you might not even need the wig.

Also, should we be incarcerating criminals based on their powerlifting totals (sum of bench press, squat, deadlift maximums) or based on reasoned analyses of their expected behavior? People raping each other in prisons is a solvable problem, and if any inmate thinks becoming trans confers an advantage, that's a solvable problem as well.

We have never segregated prisons based on "gender", which is a novel concept, that a substantial portion of the population does not even believe in. They were always segregated based on sex, and I have not heard of a valid reason provided to change that.

At best the rapist argument brings up a logistical issue for prison operators.

Not really. We are yet to establish a valid reason for putting males in female prisons to begin with.

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