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The Bailey Podcast E031: We Say Gay

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In this episode, we discuss gayness.

Participants: Yassine, TracingWoodgrains, Sultan, Shakesneer.

Links:

Ezra Klein Interviews Dan Savage (New York Times)

Stonewall: A Butch Too Far (An Historian Goes to the Movies)

Mattachine Society (Wikipedia)

3 Differences Between the Terms 'Gay' and 'Queer' (Everyday Feminism)

Exploring HIV Transmission Rates (Healthline)

Boys Beware (PBS)


Recorded 2023-02-02 | Uploaded 2023-02-28

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The person referred to in the latter half of the episode as being a very active transmitter of AIDS was probably Gaetan Dugas.

The Wikipedia article on Dugas manages very artfully to gloss over the 'disgusting' aspect of his story by 'debunking' a theory that Dugas was the person who introduced AIDS to America/various cities. And under that debunking sweep the very insidious nature of a person that allegedly intentionally spread a deadly contagious disease, even if he wasn't the first one.

"I've got gay cancer, I'm going to die and so are you" He is reported to have said after sex. Not my idea of pillow talk.

Tbh if a woman (or anyone really) told me this after sex I'd probably strangle them to death right then and there. How did this man go on for so long doing what he did without getting minecrafted?

It was in San Francisco, no? I'd imagine a gay man in SF in the 70's/80's was probably not the kind of person who could even think of throwing a punch, let alone going full Greco-Roman (and not just in that way, obviously) on someone in the bedroom.

I mean, you do that with dozens or hundreds of guys, and you might find one pissed-off guy who decides to choose violence.