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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 9, 2023

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Someone somewhere tweeted that in a hilarious irony white nationalists are gonna go extinct for the same reason as liberal whites eventually will, their undying devotion to people who hate them. That majority whiteness seems to be a pre-condition for the kind of relatively free individualistic western society, does not mean that there aren't a lot of spiteful whites who must be excluded or supressed for anything decent to exist. Why should their neurosis of self hatred be excused simply because it's one that whites have a greater predisposition to?

It's madness.

Well white nationalists are just old school liberals basically.

People elected Trump because Hitler wasn't running, but Hitler was still somewhat of a liberal as well.

White-run liberalism is not happening ever again.

Also, despite Jared Taylor being on the let's recruit Jews side of the white nationalist divide, 2 of his 3 examples of white self-hatred are Jews.

Are white nationalists devoted to liberal whites, though? It doesn’t seem so.

They are and I don't entirely blame them. Liberalism contains most of the smart and capable people in the white race, while conservatism contains many of the dumbest. People are failing because they are being discriminated against by evil people/systems at least makes some sense. Conservatives' "blacks are natural conservatives, but are kept degenerate because liberals give them too much shit" borders on the most batshit take imaginable. It's hard to blame someone for choosing a consistent ideology that's blatantly wrong on the facts, when any moment that they look around to get the other side, they get insane ramblings and a reification of those blatantly wrong facts.

Conservatives' "blacks are natural conservatives, but are kept degenerate because liberals give them too much shit" borders on the most batshit take imaginable.

Black-majority countries certainly seem decidedly more conservative than white-majority countries on most issues, especially LGBT rights. Feminism is outlier. For whatever reason, SSA countries have a much higher share of female participation in political elites than their income level would typically predict, but that's atypical for most social issues. So US conservatives might not be as wrong as you imply here, though that "natural conservatism" is clearly weak enough to be subdued in a US context.

Black Americans are clearly not in possession of particularly progressive social values, but the black community’s mores would not exactly fit in with the moral majority either- it includes default out of wedlock births, very high divorce rates, acceptance of drug use, etc, etc. Thinking the LGBT movement is weird does not make you a consistent social conservative.

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