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Perhaps this is a bit nitpicky, but no one has said this yet and I figure I should. It looks like the text for the previous Friday Fun Thread "Welcome to the final regular thread of 2022!" got copied over to this one - I doubt this is intentional?
So it did! Fixed now.
It will be nice to have these things automated again someday...
I haven't made a reddit bot before, but I expect it'd be the sort of small project I could do pretty easily and have fun with. Do you know if the code behind themotte has a similar API?
In theory there's an API that can be used, but it's not documented anywhere. Someone tried to run a bot but it just didn't work and we didn't have time to figure out why.
We do have an outstanding task for solving autoposting, and in fact I'm going to bump that up in priority to save @naraburns from doing this manually forever. The big issue is that it needs to reliably post exactly once when appropriate, and getting that to happen is a little bit tricky.
The good news is that it doesn't need a good UI - I'm completely fine if the config is, like, an XML file that I have to manually tweak and then restart the bot. So that makes it easier.
If you want to join the dev discord you're welcome to come chat about it, I'd love for this to get handled :)
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I am not sufficiently tech-savvy to answer your question, but I know @ZorbaTHut is always looking for volunteers to work on the codebase.
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