This is the first intermission of đ¯, listed as season 1 episode 7 for filing purposes. In this episode, TracingWoodgrains, MasterThief, The Sultan Of Swing, XantosCell, and Unsaying discuss religious community.
This discussion was originally slated to be released as an episode of the The Bailey podcast, but eventually it was decided that it should be published elsewhere instead, and so it finds its home here, at đ¯.
The image used in the video is Julius Schnorr von Carolsfeld's Pentecost woodcut for "Die Bibel in Bildern", 1860:
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_226.png
Show notes:
36:00 Unsaying's superintelligence of deity post: https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/a54d99/the_compression_problem/
39:47 Despite instructions made in the moment, this tangent was not cut out, as it turned out to be relevant. Normally, any requests to cut something out would be honored, but everyone involved assented to this edit of the episode.
47:03 Xantos's snake-handling video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2dlnqRDmmds
Extended show notes:
(Discussing unsuitability for marriage and the path of monasticism) https://old.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/hkesjh/comment/fwy8ofv/
https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/watching-spotlight-young-priest
https://babylonbee.com/news/dozens-of-bible-verses-come-forward-to-accuse-joel-osteen-of-abuse
(If people want more BG on heresies, i dunno) https://old.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/4ihgog/extra_history_on_early_christian_schisms_pt_2/
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Will have to give this a watch, however, I'm merely noting here that as much as I cringe seeing abasement before God*, nothing but explicitly religious communities are thriving in the modern day. (Militaristic ethnostates aside).
No matter how many downsides there are to something, if it's the only game in town, what can one do ?
Barring evolutionary adaptation of people to modern fertility patterns; there's some evidence that that is going on, some of the nations that have undergone the demographic transition the earliest - France - have the highest birth rate in their native population. (IIRC)
*having sat through a few catholic services, I found the mindset and the words alien beyond belief.
France's birthrate is driven up by large populations of both native religious fundamentalists and imported religious fundamentalists.
IIRC, even native French birthrate is up at the high end for Europe. Of course, as modernity progresses, you can expect an ever higher proportion of population to consist of religious fundamentalists, those traits offer protection from some of the dangers of modernity.
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And also by secular non fundamentalists motivated by the more important tax deduction for the 3rd child.
Tax systems should not be neglected in birth rates. Germany gives you tax credits for being married, but none for having children. Together with a well-functioning system of child care, France does taxing families right - and this is reflected in births.
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