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I am not disputing the 13/57 statistic, and if we were having a longer discussion about that, my views are less progressive and closer to the median Motte view. What I am disputing is that because a disproportionate number of blacks are criminals, we should treat them as criminals as a race and reimpose segregation or Bantustans or whatever.
I agree that this is a principle worth sticking to regardless of the outcomes. Whatever the answer to our problems might be, racial subjugation isn't it.
On the other hand, it's beyond apparent that the old plan, the one we came out of the civil war with and actually tried implementing post-64, did not work and probably never will. We don't know how to fix our race problem via education or social engineering, and it is actually a pretty big problem that hits everybody in ways difficult to ignore. We've promised blacks a better life, and we've largely failed to deliver. We've promised everyone else a solution to the social ills spilling out of the Black community, and we've failed to deliver on that as well.
I've mainly stayed out of this thread, because on the one hand there's evident racists suggesting maybe we try Jim Crow again, and that is fundamentally repulsive, but then on the other hand there's people acting like the Civil Rights movement actually achieved its stated aims, and that's absurd. It's maddening.
Yeah, sadly I agree. As I said, I am not really "progressive" or optimistic in my view of current race relations. I just don't see white nationalists offering a solution that isn't pure blood and violence.
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