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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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Generally speaking, it would be a strange coincidence if the Biden campaign's malfeasance matched up so impressively well with the media's red-mirage predictions, and had the opposite effect you'd expect on the eventual results, which were much better for Trump than pre-election polling would indicate.

More specifically, this doesn't appear to have happened; the Trump campaign fundraised on that idea, but didn't appear willing to make the same bold claims in actual court.

I have less than zero interest in the legal ineptitude of Trump's legal team; Trump selects for loyalty, not competence, which is understandable but has predictable consequences. The various factors I've mentioned have long been confirmed, regardless of Team Trump's (in)ability to navigate hostile systems.

Okay, but why do you think that "poll watchers were removed", since the only claims to that effect came from incompetent Trump followers who then recanted?

They're not the only source. This has been debated for two years now, and the information is available; I'm genuinely not going to bother rearguing it with you here.

Fair enough but if that's so I'm going to choose not to be convinced by you.

I'm not attempting to convince you or anyone else; as I noted, this has been debated over and over for two years now. The matter is settled, the lines are drawn, and persuasion is no longer a worthwhile goal nor even an achievable one. I'm not reaching out, I'm declaring where I stand, in the hope that it can offer others some small glimpse into the current nature of our society.

You do not need to agree 2020 was illegitimate. I, and tens of millions of people, are convinced it was. You have to deal with us one way or another.

That just sounds like what someone would say if they didn't have a convincing argument. If you had a convincing argument it'd be easier to just use it than grandstand over your refusal to use it.

You were open to being convinced here?

Humor us, this is the right place to do it after all.

If I say 'no' there is no force on heaven or earth that can change my mind.

That seems antithetical to rationalism, no?

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