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Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
White, right-wing, male.
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Banned by: @ZorbaTHut
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Ah, there it is. Yes -- having a sympathetic judge is indeed the clincher. Still, I wouldn't feel too smug. The scale will tip back eventually.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Once again, I reject this special pleading. It's not going to get you anywhere.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Claiming a false flag school massacre is exactly as ludicrous as claiming Kyle Rittenhouse belongs in prison. His activities were caught on film; there is no ambiguity, which is why his trial was so decisively in his favor. It's also as ridiculous as claiming innocent children deserved to be run over.
I reject your special pleading. Alex Jones' lies and harassment are not magically worse than the left's lies and harassment.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
For obvious reasons I vigorously oppose the ongoing leftist censorship of the internet, and hope to see my side wield all social, legal, and economic weapons available to them in an effort to not only halt but reverse this control, so that we can silence leftists.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
The mass physical deportation of minorities is off the table. The mass disenfranchisement of them is not only on the table, it's frequently being discussed as a real thing that's actively happening.
So I don't want to deport them. I just want to strip their voting rights.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Where?
Oh, gosh, where to begin. Let's see, Democrats saying terrible, evil things about people...
What about Hillary Clinton repeatedly calling Donald Trump a variation of "Putin's Puppet", or otherwise accusing him of capital offenses and besmirching his character? It's hard to imagine a more damning smear in the political sphere -- being a Benedict Arnold is a way to go down in history for the worse!
"But Trump is a politician, so making shit up about him isn't a big deal!"
Okay, fine. What about Mary Lewanski, who carried water for the Waukesha murderer, and said the citizens there deserved it because it was karma? She resigned from her post, admittedly, but where's the billion dollar award for the people of Waukesha? I'd link this, but she'd scrubbed her accounts -- if you Google you can find plenty of screenshots, though, don't take my word for it. The traumatized citizens of Waukesha aren't
"Okay, but she's just a member of the DNC, not a major politician, and besides, she didn't even use anyone's specific name!"
Fine, fine.
(you can find more quotes from him if you want, that's just one piece).
Zero respect for the rule of law, zero knowledge of the situation, throwing political weight around and advocating for the lifetime incarceration of an innocent boy who was attacked. How irresponsible, too, given the media circus surrounding Rittenhouse, he's seriously endangering him with that sort of remark -- who knows what kind of mad vigilante might be inspired to "correct" the justice system's moral failures.
You want to say Alex Jones is a piece of shit who bullies innocent people for his cause, makes up lies about their trauma, and in general deserves a harsh punishment? Fine. Get those three people above to pay out and we can talk.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
There was no backtracking. I don't know why you interpreted what I said as a backtrack.
As for examples: the things said about Kyle Rittenhouse, as already mentioned, are absolutely on par with the things Jones said.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
So the threshold is a sympathetic judge? Because there's an awful lot of defamation on the level of Alex Jones going around, and a whole lot of it isn't being punished with bankruptcy. What about every journalist and outlet who, even post-trial, smeared (falsely) Kyle Rittenhouse as a murderer or other sort of problem?
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
"It's the Republican's fault they don't bribe the minority underclass enough" is a true statement, but I'd rather be rid of that particular underclass than held hostage by their vote.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
So, legally, you're not interested in whether or not non-Jones figures who have said awful things should be held accountable (like Jones was), but you can at least agree they were morally awful.
Well, that's cool, though speaking as someone on Jones' side of the aisle, I'd rather have legal equality instead of moral.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
You talk about a lot of reasons why Alex Jones is a terrible person, but none of that is relevant, fundamentally, to whether or not angry rhetoric and conspiratorial thinking qualifies as inciting other people to criminal behavior.
Before blacks were a criminal underclass, they were the sort of people inclined to become a criminal underclass; Whites historically disliked them, and Jim Crow laws were in fact designed to disenfranchise them. Given how the black bloc consistently votes these days, I miss ol' Jim Crow.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
What threshold do you suggest that leaves Alex Jones culpable but doesn't simultaneously make the DNC responsible for the BLM riots and their associated crime?
Replace "the DNC" with "significant figures of importance within the Democrats" if you prefer.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
There's no magic trick to having positive human relationships, dude. Have you never small talked before? Asked someone about their day? It's not hard to have a casually positive relationship with your neighbors -- just be friendly when you talk to them.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Sounds like you already have a plan in mind and don't need advice.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
What advice do people here have for living among people they can't stand or see as ideological enemies?
Move.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
I don't think it's confusing at all. I believe the sides are clearly drawn and recognizable both to themselves and their enemies.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
The idea cheating doesn't happen in solid Red/Blue areas is hilarious -- have people never once heard of Chicago?
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
I don't set policy for any future conservative regimes, so unfortunately free speech rights would likely still exist in some form. If you meant to ask about my preferences, my preference is victory, through whatever means are necessary to achieve that; if that means silencing and destroying enemies, I support silencing and destroying enemies. If that means depriving them of speech, I support depriving them of speech.
I do not care one lick about principle when it comes to adversarial dealings. Principle is a luxury you can indulge when your rule is secure. In a far-off future where the Right had the Left's current social domination, I'd be fine with letting Disney talk shit without getting hit, because their speech would be irrelevant.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Social conservatism is politically dead, but the Right is not -- but it does need to grow past social conservatism. We can never go back; we can make something new.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
The standard line conservatives gave in the past about is what generally led to the current state. Modern conservatives are learning to stop embracing the philosophy of losers, because losing spoils every other thing you want.
So long as Disney opposes the right, I want all the force the right can bear brought down on them. That's the only way Disney will stop opposing the right. Being a principled loser is for suckers.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
From my perspective, the forced changes to how the elections were conducted, in violation of the laws governing those elections in states, is enough on its own to introduce intolerable ambiguity into the results.
Minotaur
Si vis pacem, fac bellum
2yr ago
Is it reasonable to intimate that the election's results are correct, but that Trump would have won had the processes around elections not illegally been changed in various states?
Recognizing your enemies are in fact your enemies, and not deluded, or too stupid to see the consequences of their actions, is charitable and clear. It would be an unrivaled act of arrogance to decide that the reason people work against you is because they're misguided, and simply don't understand simple truths.
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