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naraburns  nihil supernum  2yr ago (text post)   4608 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for November 20, 2022

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I would do nothing if I were you. The CPU upgrade process isn't that complex (but I have been upgrading my PCs since my dad let the magic smoke out of the floppy drive and hung up his hat):

  • pick the CPU you like

  • find out the socket

  • check that your cooler can mount on the socket

    • you might have to order a new mounting bracket for it

    • or you might need a new cooler

  • check that your mobo has the same socket and its chipset supports your chosen CPU

    • or you might need a new mobo

  • if you need a new mobo, pick one that has the same form factor as your current one and that has enough expansion slots for your devices (not a problem for most modern PCs)

  • if you need a new mobo, check that it will work with that GPU or SSD you might want to buy next year (PCIe version)

  • if you need a new mobo, check that your RAM is compatible (DDR4 vs DDR5 in 2022)

    • or you might need new RAM

  • if you need a new mobo, check that your PSU is compatible (no new connectors)

    • or you might need a new PSU

  • just in case, check that the new wattage won't overload your CPU (there are websites for that)

    • or you might need a new PSU

  • if you need a new PSU, check that it will work with that GPU you might want to buy next year (power and connectors)

  • order your new CPU, cooler, mobo, RAM and PSU

  • disassemble your PC

  • assemble you new PC

lol

I really appreciate your taking the time to write out the detailed steps, but I have to ask, you do realize what you wrote out does not mesh with "isn't that complex", right? I'm stereotyping here, but maybe forward the list to someone who is not your dad and isn't a DIY tinkerer, and ask them if they think it's a stroll or a massive undertaking. Just a few examples:

pick the CPU you like

I mean I would just go by userbenchmarks but as another poster nearby commented, you can't necessarily even trust that because of its anti-AMD bias, and the "effective speed" metric isn't as straightforward as it sounds like. Now I have to go down another rabbit hole to understand what's best.

find out the socket

I have no idea how many types of sockets there are and the pros and cons of each.

you might have to order a new mounting bracket for it

There's another hour at least of research to understand what's going on

disassemble your PC

assemble you new PC

This reminds me of the draw-the-rest-of-the-owl meme.

Honestly you see willing to make some non-optimal choices and maybe give up some money or porformance for ease. if you just buy a new motherboard and cpu bundled you can just follow the lego like instructions that come with the motherboard. You will probably spend some two digit number of dollars more and have slightly worse performance but it's probably the middle ground you're looking for.

I did expect this reaction, but it's honestly not that bad. Building a shed or changing a tire is harder, because you actually require some manual dexterity to turn your knowledge into practical results. Learning how to upgrade a PC takes a few evenings of scrolling and the parts actually slot together with minimal effort.

For example, if you search for 13900K on Wikipedia, you get to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_Lake, where it says in plain text it uses socket LGA1700. Then you click through to the page about the socket itself and see the list of chipsets that work with Raptor Lake, of which there's just one, the most expensive Z790.

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