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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 14, 2022

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Is that what 'control of female sexuality' looks like? Isn't tying a man down and having kids controlling male sexuality?

You might notice the term I used was rein in, not 'control.'

So yes, promoting the idea that both women and men should try to partner up monogamously is reining in female sexuality, in a world where they otherwise have virtually limitless partners to choose from.

I guess my point here is that I don't see this idea of rampant promiscuity ruining the dating market any more believable than a claim that men spending all of their time watching Minecraft streams ruining the dating market, and I definitely don't see 'dating is hard' being the main cause behind recent unraveling of the social contract.

It's likely a series of feedback loops that all play into each other. I said as much: "Note I'm not saying this is the ONLY condition for dysfunction (plenty of dysfunctional societies which heavily police female sexuality, cf. Iran) but just a seemingly major factor that contributes to dysfunction in the long run."

But I suspect that its similar to the obesity epidemic. Despite the prevalence of technology and prosperity making our lives easier, lots of people have worse health and less fulfilling lives than before.

So, too, is the 'ease' of connecting with potential partners causing some people to see worse outcomes. I think the evidence is clear that women are asymetrically able to exploit their sexuality for personal gain in this environment.

Hence, you'll see outsized effects by focusing on female sexuality as a causal factor.

I doubt that it has a large scale net effect.

Interesting.

Pick a source you find reliable and tell me if you still believe that after reviewing it:

https://news.unt.edu/news-releases/men-have-highest-risk-low-self-esteem-while-using-tinder-unt-study-finds

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201810/are-dating-apps-damaging-our-mental-health

https://bmcpsychology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40359-020-0373-1

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2019.0561

https://nyctherapy.com/therapists-nyc-blog/how-dating-apps-can-impact-mental-health/

You might notice the term I used was rein in, not 'control.'

Synonymous.

But I suspect that its similar to the obesity epidemic.

Hell, that might be a bigger influence than anything else, because it's making a larger and larger fraction of people unattractive, but you're still striving for an attractive partner. Just not striving in a way that includes reducing calories.

I still don't understand how you're seeing a scenario where young women go after older men as entirely the fault of women or their sexuality and not a mutual decision made by both men and women.

'Dating apps are bad for nental health' isn't automatically a support for the notion that unrestrained female sexuality is responsible for societal ills.

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