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This effectively means that liberals don't care for America having a president, not a king. They love having a king as long he's a man of "exceptional virtue" (steamrolls checks and balances to implement liberal policies).
The liberals supported the 22nd amendment too. "We should never have another FDR" was not a controversial position once the war was over and the Japanese internment camps stopped feeling like a good idea.
"Never have another FDR" practically means "nobody can fix what FDR broke."
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His abuses of power didn't start with WW2, so "we should never have another FDR" after he reshaped the entire country, setting the tone for next century, is awfully convenient.
Also, this particular line of argument seems irrelevant until Trump starts running for his 3rd term.
KMC, while posting in favour of Trump, compared him to a King and applauded him for punishing lese-majeste in the way a King would. I think that is a problem. You brought up the comparison to FDR, not me. Although if we are going to run with it, I note that if FDR had put out an official portrait of him crowned and enthroned (something Trump did - on @WhiteHouse and not @RealDonaldTrump so it was official government communication) then even his supporters would have objected. If FDR had announced sanctions against law firms who represented his political opponents (which he did not), his supporters should have objected.
FDR's supporters did object to Japanese internment as soon as it was safe to do so. FDR's supporters did object to Court-packing, which is why it didn't happen.
The MAGA base support administrative detention legal immigrants with the wrong tattoos - in peacetime, which makes this worse than FDR. They support various plans to neuter opposition to the administration through the courts. And when Trump talks about running for a third term, they insist he is joking while selling Trump 2028 T-shirts and putting up Trump 2028 banners at CPAC. Trump is already running for a third term in plain sight, or at least maintaining strategic ambiguity about doing so - the correct response from non-fashy Trump supporters would be "This is stupid and I wish he would stop" not "Yay libs so trolled. Trump 2028 for great lulz!!!"
Well, there may have been other reasons too. It's hard to read minds, but even if the court's streak of "growing wheat on your own land for your own animals' consumption is interstate commerce"-level nonsense wasn't done out of fear of court packing, the resulting "feds can do whatever they want" situation still made court packing effectively unnecessary.
By the time Wickard v Filburn was decided there were already 7 FDR-appointed justices on the Court, so the threat to appoint more wasn't necessary. Ultimately FDR got the SCOTUS he wanted the legal way.
court-packing is entirely legal and constitutional
Fair enough. It would be more accurate to say that ultimately FDR got the SCOTUS he wanted in a way that was entirely consistent with the American mos maiorum.
threaten to break precedent destroying one of three branches of government causing the majority of the Court to retire within a few years so you get to appoint 8 of 9 during your precedent shattering 4 terms in elected office? so it's not that either
there is no way to shove this square peg into the round hole; you cannot use "FDR's supporters" criticizing FDR 10+ years after he was dead as to why they're like consistent criticizing Trump while Trump is currently in the acts which you're trying to describe as King Trump and for which you're criticizing MAGA supporters for not opposing right now and not 10 years or more later
besides, while it's true some FDR supporters were against it, it is hardly representative of FDR supporters generally
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Sure, if we're going to pretend FDR's excesses began and ended with the Japanese internment, that it may seem that way. FDR had people arrested for selling goods too cheap - in peacetime, I hardly see how it's any better than detaining them for the wrong tattoo.
Are you taking any bets on this?
Something he was expressly authorised to do by Congress. NIRA was found unconstitutional by SCOTUS on federalism and nondelegation grounds, not on fundamental rights grounds, after which FDR stopped trying to enforce it. Very bad policy, but a long way from arbitrary detention without trial.
Congress had no right to authorize it either.
You have to forgive me for not caring for SCTOUS' justifications from this era, they had a few doozies too. In any case, look if you want to judge this particular transgression as less bad than what Trump's doing, I suppose I can see where you're coming from. But if you want to take the cumulative total of all the ways liberals were breaking the constitution, I don't know if it's going to be so clear who comes up on top (or bottom as it were).
Anyway, are you taking that bet on Trump running again or not?
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