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The first one is straightforward, but I'd love to see you expand on the second. I think everyone has seen it happen, but I don't think I've ever seen it framed quite that way.
You know teenagers generally don’t actually like beer? They drink it because that’s what grown men do, and the valence is only there because of relevant laws. If it was about enjoyment they’d drink margaritas(which actually taste good when you aren’t used to alcohol).
Lots of things are like this. There’s an interesting psychological study I once saw- teenaged boys who worked in workplaces alongside normal grown men(think specialty stores, country clubs, etc as opposed to fast food) behaved better in aggregate and had a few other outcomes society would mostly consider ‘good’. This is because their role models for how grown men behaved were normal working class men as opposed to frat boys(and you can’t stop high school and college aged types from being exposed to each other, they’re too close in age). I can’t find it right now, and no doubt it has the usual issues of psychological studies, but it accords with what we’ve all seen.
Our society’s understanding of a woman’s role is too messed up to show the same thing for them. But I would expect it to be true for them too.
Beer isn’t the best tasting drink in the world but I don’t remember it tasting bad as a teenager.
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