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You're right, I flew off the handle, I'm sorry. I certainly didn't mean to imply I didn't believe you suffered depression, although I do think suicidal as a descriptor should require planning - if it's at the wanting to die level the whole of Denmark is suicidal.
But this subject is uniquely tilting me, I am trying to have empathy but it does feel like you are being deliberately obtuse. I believe you are not, and I appreciate you saying what you just did, and I have been trying to figure out another way to explain myself but I can't do it without tilting further.
I understand, and I won't press the point.
It can be frustrating to confront someone with the same set of observed facts, and find that they take away entirely different messages. Some of that is miscommunication, and common ground can be found if you hash things out long enough.
Sometimes, it can be genuine differences in what we value, and I wish I had a solution to that. I do not expect that there is, beyond letting the brute force of reality sort out a victor, though hopefully not with bloodshed or permanent acrimony. I've been there, when talking to someone who accepts what I find unacceptable, and I'd be lying if I said I'd never lost my temper in the process.
If you wish to continue the conversation, I'll be here. If not, then I did appreciate the opportunity to discuss our beliefs and ideas.
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