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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 7, 2022

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Straw that broke the camels back. Nothing especially bad about this post compared to a number of other norm eroding posts I am seeing.

I guess we're on to the "ignore except to subtweet about the stench of evil right wing bare links posts getting worse" step already.

It's sad how predictable it is. Could you actually address his post, as a favor to me?

Nope. Nothing you are saying in anyway makes me think that is a good idea. Perhaps reconsider your approach?

No need to change my approach: you've already explained more than enough about your reaction to the evidence. All that's left is waiting for the "and it's good!" step in a few months.

It's amazing that the same tactics work for you over and over again, but why change what works.

I've explained exactly nothing about my reaction to the evidence. The only thing I have talked about is my critique of how the point was made. You are familiar with the Motte yes? This is very much our bread and butter. Nearly any point can be made, but we have rules and a culture around HOW the point should be made.

It should be plain, it should be written as is people you disagree with are reading and you WANT them to read. It should avoid Boo Outgrouping and should optimize for light and not heat etc. etc.

Could you help him rewrite his post so that people with a fetish for castrating children felt more included in the conversation? That would be a very helpful and productive alternative to complaining about his tone, and double as active engagement with the evidence.

You two could even do an adversarial collaboration on it!

Your conduct throughout this thread has been terrible, and you have collected an impressive number of reports by being an antagonistic jerk.

This not being the first, second, or third time you've been warned, you're getting a three-day ban.

ETA: Increased to 7 days for insults via DM.

What do you think I am doing, in engaging with a topic I otherwise don't care about? I am offering suggestions (which the OP is free to ignore!) about why his approach came across as partisan and didn't I think have the impact he intended. I am much more interested in the meta ideas of how we should communicate in this space than I am in his choice of topic.

I'm far from the only one to have noticed this issue and not even just on this side of the fence. Cultural norms are the most valuable part of this space in my opinion and the way to keep those going is through discussion and feedback on the part of Motteizens. I bear no ill will to the OP, I'm on a sub where we can discuss the The Jewish problem, HBD, Trans castration , furry fetishists and reasoned discussions about tax levels for a reason after all.

I'm not a progressive, even if I tend to represent them here, due to lack of voices.

why his approach came across as partisan

Well you know, call me a fascist Nazi, but if it's a matter of people with sexual fetishes about castrating minors getting to make policy, that will be used as recommendations by medical and government bodies, on surgical procedures that, in effect, castrate minors, then hell yeah I'm partisan on this one.

(Somebody better at grammar than me count up all the commas in that sentence and tell me if I came out right at the end).

It's absolutely ok to be partisan on pretty much any topic. Almost everyone is. But one of the thing that makes this space special is trying very much to write in as non-partisan a way as possible in my opinion.

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