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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 27, 2025

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(and even then, from what I know, I think you could reasonably argue at least some of the Allied bombing strikes weren't justified)

This is the piece of the puzzle that I think you are missing. The bombings of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and dozens of other strategic air raid targets are totally unjustifiable by modern standards. They fail the tests of both proportionality and distinction. Were we to be using the standards of the allies in WWII (which were still higher than the standards of the Axis) then Israel turning the Gaza strip to rubble with carpet bombing or nukes would be, if not justifiable, at least comfortably within the window of normality.

Dresden, perhaps. With Hiroshima and Nagasaki it depends on if you take into account that they won the damned war. Critics like to not count that part. If you balance Hiroshima and Nagasaki against continued conventional warfare to a conclusion, they look a lot more proportional.

won the damned war.

Under certain very soecific conditions: Japan must give Northern Territories, Korea, South Seas Mandate, Formosa, but gets to keep Hokkaido. His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor Syowa will lose power, but will not be tried, imprisoned, let alone murdered. Japanese people will not be enslaved.

Change any of these arbitrary conditions, and surrender comes at a different time. Perhaps if guarantees to the Emperor were less doubtful, only Hiroshima would be annihilated. If Potsdam declaration mentioned the Emperor by name as a war criminal, perhaps a couple of more cities would be irradiated.

These are largely quibbles, especially when applied to Hiroshima. The point is that weighing the civilian lives lost at Hiroshima against the immediate military advantage of destroying Hiroshima's military infrastructure rather than against the actual, plausible, objective of ending the war without a full-scale invasion is unreasonable.

I wouldn't count myself as a critic of the atomic bombings. It was a war crime in a war that was war crimes from beginning to end. Was it justifiable (in the moral sense) on the basis that not dropping the bombs would have resulted in ultimately a far worse outcome for all involved? Personally, I think so. But under the modern Law of Armed Conflict, such a bombing would not even be close to passing muster.

Sure, in hindsight it probably won the war, but all military acts are designed to win the war in some sense. That does not give all actors carte blanche to do anything they want on the basis that it may just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Ostensibly, the military infrastructure of Hiroshima was the true target of the bombing. the ~100k collateral civilian deaths caused by the bomb would certainly not be considered proportional to the military value of destroying those enemy assets.

Yes, I think you are correct. But on the other hand, modern standards for warfare are much higher due to precision weapons. As you suggest, from what I understand Allied tactics in the Second World War were not unusual when contrasted with the Axis tactics.

Mind you, this isn't necessarily a moral justification for the actions - I just think it's important to understand that our standards are and should be higher because we can be more discriminating.